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I record vocals using a ksm27 into a yamaha 2816, and i have the option of using the xdr preamps on my mackie mixer, but usually dont. I was wondering i it would be beneficial for me to buy like a studio projects vtb1 to get some more warmth with my vocals, or should i upgrade mics. Basically i want to get a lot more warmth and color added to my vocals and i need some advice. thank you
 
while the Yamaha and the Mackie have decent preamps, if you want warmth, get the VTB1......the Yamaha and Mackie are basically clean type pres.......

that KSM27 is a nice mic...youll be surprised when you hear it thru the VTB1.......
 
thanks for the help man, would the vtb also be good to use as DI for a guitar and maybe a bass? and also, i know the 2816 pretty well now, but everyone keeps talking to me about these preamps that are in it already. are these built in or are there some kind of buttons to trn them on?
 
yeah the VTB1 is pretty decent for bass...

direct electric guitar will just be more to taste.

But you will get a much bigger upgrade in sound quality from a VTB1 at this point, than a new mic. your shure is nice enough.

One thing the VTB1 shines on is dynamics. So if you have an SM57 or SM58...or even some cheaper dynamics, the VTB1 may breathe new life into them.
 
I think i might go with a focusrite for about 400 because i heard it and it adds a lot of warmth, has anyone heard the two used, if so can you help me decide between them?
 
I really doubt a VTB1 is going to give you gobs of extra warmth. Maybe a little extra mud/distortion/fuzz kind of warmth. Overall, though, I wouldn't look at it as some sort of significant step up from the Mackie or anything.

About the closest thing I can think of, in your price range, would be a Joemkeek . . . either the mq3 or vc1q, depending on what you can afford. The opto-compressor has a non-linaer quality, and adds some pleasing harmonics (aka - warmth) when pushed.

I've heard some nice things about the Focusrite, and I'm sure that would be fairly nice, as well. Especially for the beginner, since it's one of the more user-friendly pres out there. The focusrite uses a FET circuit in order to add some fuzzies . . . similar to an actual tube, and much more natural, I would guess, than the starved-plate design used by something like the vtb1.

Another one I might suggest checking out would be the M-audio Tampa. I have no experience with it, although I've heard it has a similar kinda' thing going on as the Focusrite, and is capable of imparting the kind of sound you're looking for.
 
thanks a lot for the advice, i think ill probably go with the focusrite.
 
I have just been playing with the the Focusrite Voicemaster over the weekend and here are my thoughts. First it is Class A which tells you that you are getting a step up from solid state units.

Excellent preamp section, worth the price of admission alone. I tested this with a SP C1 and the clarity is excellent. However at times it was a little too crisp on my voice (baritone) and I had to use the EQ button called ambience to take out the 3.5KHz range.

The low end cut worked great to take out rumble.

The gate and silence detector worked great and I would use it on mixes done for guitars or drums but not on a vocal.

The Compressor on a scale of 1-10 (10 being an RNC) about an 8. Very controllable but the layout of the buttons was weird.

The EQ was 50% great and 50% worthless. The warmth control not generally usable but the upper mid and highs were excellent.

De-esser - did not work on the unit I had. So I can't say.

My reccomendation on a scale of 1-10 (10 being a Great River preamp) about a 7.5.

It definitely sounds very high end like the RNP. Transient response was very good. A real treat was to by pass the Opto compressor and run it through my RNC set to Super Nice. That was sweet.

At an average price of $250 bucks on ebay this has got to be the best value for the homerecorder I can think of.

Finally, there is a new version out called the Pro which has improved on many of the originals issues. Plus they have harmonic saturation to emulate tubes! Hey, M-Audio used this term first on the Tampa.

I did notice that the Tampa and the Focusrite Voicemaster Pro have both been getting excellent reviews and awards. If it was me I would forget the VTB-1 and for a few more dollars buy a used Voicemaster off ebay. Much better value for your buck.
 
I would consider Joemeek VC1Q- a lovely vox box.-Richie
 
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