Just a quick one - very basic help please

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I'll be honest, it's the playing and writing of music, not the recording process, that really interests me - but I would like to have something on CD just to give to friends, family etc...

Could someone please tell me how - using a reasonably new and fast Sharp laptop - I can do this??

Software, hardware etc i would need.

Haven't got a huge budget and it doesn't have to sound perfect, just want something to show for my hours of work :)

Many Thanks in advance

Andy
 
if your not going to get serious about recording you could do it for really cheap....get a...mxl 990 condenser mic...an ART Tube MP OPL Microphone Preamp with Output Protection Limiter.. and a 1/4 to 1/8 in. adaptor(to plug the pre's output into the laptop) and then download a sequencer off the internet....that would give you basic recording functions for REALLY cheap....TOTAL COST 130$
 
Andy62 said:
I'll be honest, it's the playing and writing of music, not the recording process, that really interests me - but I would like to have something on CD just to give to friends, family etc...

Could someone please tell me how - using a reasonably new and fast Sharp laptop - I can do this??

Software, hardware etc i would need.

Haven't got a huge budget and it doesn't have to sound perfect, just want something to show for my hours of work :)

Many Thanks in advance

Andy

Welcome to the board, Andy.

There are a number of ways to record to a laptop. It would help to clarify what type of music you will be recording and your budget, as audio gear comes at so many price points. I'll give you a few low-budget options for starters:

1. Microphones - If you don't have some already, you'll need something to capture your sound. Something like a Shure SM57 is inexpensive, rugged, and is a good first mic. It won't sound great, but it will get the job done. Inexpensive condensers, like the MXL 990, Studio Projects B1, etc. will give you a more detailed sound.

2. Preamp - You'll need something to amplify your mic for recording. You could buy a stand-alone preamp, like the M-Audio Audio Buddy or DMP3, get a small mixer (Yamaha MG), or, since you're recording to your laptop, get a computer interface with built-in preamps (see below)

3. Soundcard/interface - Your laptop should have a soundcard, but it probably isn't ideal for recording. If you bought a stand-alone preamp in #2 above, then you could just get a cable to connect that preamp to the "line-in" on your laptop's soundcard. The recordings would be usable, but would be limited by the quality of the Analog-to-Digital converters in your soundcard. Alternately, to bypass the soundcard, you could get an interface that connects via USB, FireWire, or PCMCIA. USB is quick and easy, but not always the most reliable. FireWire is better, but more expensive. PCMCIA are good, too, but are less popular. These interfaces often have built in mic preamps, so you don't necessarily have to buy separate ones. Look here for some. For USB, I would check out the Tascam US-122 (I have one and it works great for me), M-Audio MobilePre, or similar. For FireWire, I would look at the Firebox or Firewire 410. I don't know which PCMCIA to recommend.

4. Software - You could record to just the Windows Sound Recorder (on PC), but you'll probably want to pick up some multitracking software to expand your mixing possibilities. There is a free program called Kristal that you can use to get your feet wet. Cubase SE, Cakewalk Home Studio, N-Track, etc. are other inexpensive recording programs that are very decent.

On a super-tight budget, I would recommend: MXL 990 mic ($60) + AudioBuddy preamp ($80) + Kristal (free). That will get you recording for less than $150. For $250, you could get the 990, a Tascam US-122 ($170), and Kristal. If you have more to spend, then get a FireWire interface, a better mic, and step up to Cubase or Cakewalk software.
 
why an audio buddY? if he really doesnt want to spend money he should just get the ART..(though i do agree the buddy is better)....also the tascam is unnecesary for him at this point
 
scrubs said:
Welcome to the board, Andy.

There are a number of ways to record to a laptop. It would help to clarify what type of music you will be recording and your budget, as audio gear comes at so many price points. I'll give you a few low-budget options for starters:....

This response should be made a sticky considering the amount of times this question comes up...

Good job Scrubs!

:)
 
Elmo89m said:
why an audio buddY? if he really doesnt want to spend money he should just get the ART..(though i do agree the buddy is better)....also the tascam is unnecesary for him at this point

Well, sure, he could just record using the internal mic on the laptop right into Windows sound recorder. :D That costs nothing. I have no problem with the ART suggestion. It is cheap and will get the job done. I do think that 2 preamps for $80 beats one at $50, though. The Tascam was a suggestion to improve quality (by bypassing his soundcard and offering two decent pres) for not much more money. They are all just suggestion/options.
 
i agree with monsoon......i suppose your right about the audio buddy...but i will say that the audio buddies two channels dont matter unless he gets to mics anyways..and then were talkin almost another 100 dollars.....im just saying if he really is going cheapo thirty dollars is sumthin even if not much
 
Sorry, I should of been clearer. Damn Newbies :eek:

My music is pretty much just vocals and either guitar or piano accompnament (that is the worst spelling i've ever seen), occassionally (and that) with other backing instruments.

Would I be right in thinking that if I had software or a mixer with multi-track facility that I could do the whole lot with one mic?

Thanks for all the suggestions so far. They are all hitting about the right price range (God I'm tight) :p

Any other nuggets of wisdom would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Andy

Ps. Who knows I might actually end up getting hooked on this recording lark :D
 
Ooh, one more point.

Been looking around a bit after your earlier advice and the sm57 is very much portrayed as an instrument mic.

Would it be ok for picking up vocals or not?

Thanks a lot guys

Andy

(I've also just found the MXL 990 for cheaper, so I'm assuming I'd be best off going for this one?)
 
Andy62 said:
Would I be right in thinking that if I had software or a mixer with multi-track facility that I could do the whole lot with one mic?

Well, if you are recording multiple instruments/voices simultaneously, it would be advised to mic each separately and record each to a separate track in the software. If you are going to be recording things one-at-a-time, then one mic should be fine to start out (still, record each part to a separate track and mix them together afterwards). Unfortunately, there is no one single mic that is ideally suited to all recording tasks (acoustic/electric instruments, vocals, drums, etc.), but one mic should allow you to do what you want.

Who knows I might actually end up getting hooked on this recording lark :D

Start saving your pennies. It can get really expensive really fast! :p
 
Andy62 said:
Ooh, one more point.

Been looking around a bit after your earlier advice and the sm57 is very much portrayed as an instrument mic.

Would it be ok for picking up vocals or not?

Thanks a lot guys

Andy

(I've also just found the MXL 990 for cheaper, so I'm assuming I'd be best off going for this one?)

The 57 is used in many professional studios for specific instrument tasks such as miking electric guitar amps and snare drums. However, it is also a decent vocal recording mic for some voices (and is a good live vocal mic -- used by a lot of punk artists and such). The nice things about the 57 are it is inexpensive, very versatile (sounds decent on a lot of things), and is built like a tank. The 990 (and condenser mics in general) is a lot more fragile, but also more sensitive and detailed in its sound (read - generally better for delicate acoustic work, etc.). Either one will work fine for your needs and budget.
 
you could get away with micing individually if you recorded your guitar or piano accompaniement and then overdubb the vocals....as for which mic to get..its a toss up...the sm57 will be much better for micing your guitar cab....the mxl will probably be a "little" bit better for the piano (im just judging by the sensitivity) and for vocals im guessing the mxl is better
 
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