JM 47 or AT4040

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Im looking into buying a 'nice' new mic for A.Guitar and Vox. Im thinking either the Joe Meek 47 or AT 4040. Ive not used the AT but hear good things, and have used a old JM 47 and been impressed.

Anyone add to that for me?
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Well, one of them is a cheap, crappy Chinese condenser that you'll probably upgrade soon, and the other is a very smooth and accurate, professional grade tool that you'll probably hold on to for years.
 
I think there's a couple of different versions of the JM47 ... but don't quote me on that. Either way, it's pretty much the same as the SE Electronics SE2200 I have. It's definitely good value for money, and a good starter mic if you're wanting to play with that 'condenser sound'. My SE2200 has been used on acoustics, amps, vocals and piano and done a surprisingly good job on all of them.

I haven't used the AT4040 (although I have a few of its stable-mates) but here's the scoop on what people round here reckon of it. It's very detailed and transparent for such an inexpensive mic, and that would be why it sticks around. I wouldn't buy it expecting you to do many favours - if your guitar or voice is crap, it won't help you out, but if they're great, it won't get in the way either.

I would tend to agree with Chessrock that if I could only have one, I'd have the AT. But there's nothing wrong with the JM/SE if you want to pick up something and learn how to use it.

So I guess it depends where you're coming from - and the other big factor is the quality of your room ... it will affect both mics but my experience is in my rooms is that the accurate mics let me hear stuff I don't want to, whereas coloured ones (and dynamics in particular) let me take the emphasis off bits I don't like. But either way you should look at how your acoustic space is set up.
 
right chhers - i was def. more in favor of the AT so thats all good. Guitar i mainly record on is a nice Takamine and vocals do what the do wellish, room for improvment for sure thou.
 
Cool. Let us know how it works out for you! Write a review or something!
 
It's certainly not the same casing, cos they're different shapes. But the current silver JM47 looks very similar to the SE2200A ...
 
This was posted by Alan a couple years ago:

"Ok, not that you all want to know, but the Behringers are made by 797. The Behringer B1...Doh, another B1... is the exact same mic as the JM-47 Joemeek USA version with a pad and filter. I did the Joemeek mic a few years ago when it was clear we could not import the ones Joemeek UK did as a result of the freight and duty. ... The JM-47 comes with case and mount as well. "

I've never heard the JM-47, but if I have heard/owned the Behringer B-1, and boy does it suck.
 
Ah - but this was a different one to the UK one? And hasn't it undergone some revisions since then?

I've heard the Behringer B-1 fleetingly, and it didn't sound the same as my SE2200, but who knows?
 
The JM47 now is a totally different design, though. Not that I've heard or can give an opinion on its sound...

Well, the original JM47 sure did suck.
 
Right, ok. Progress. So PMI's version of the JM47 (as opposed to Ted Fletcher's?) is the one that comes from the same design as the SE2200. I know that much. We're getting there!! :D
 
noisedude said:
I would tend to agree with Chessrock that if I could only have one, I'd have the AT. But there's nothing wrong with the JM/SE if you want to pick up something and learn how to use it.
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Anything is good if you just want to "pick up something and learn how to use it". A ham sandwich would do the trick if you just want to "pick something up and learn how to use it".

I've noticed that on HR, moreso than on just about any other board, it is politically incorrect to say that anything is better than anything else. Nothing sucks. Everything is good. Has it really come to that point?
 
nkjanssen said:
Anything is good if you just want to "pick up something and learn how to use it". A ham sandwich would do the trick if you just want to "pick something up and learn how to use it".

I've noticed that on HR, moreso than on just about any other board, it is politically incorrect to say that anything is better than anything else. Nothing sucks. Everything is good. Has it really come to that point?
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Yea, basically, you have a few factions of people who get their panties in a wad because you diss a mic that they either like or manufacture (or that their friends like or manufacture). So people can't really say what they think without getting publically trounced on for saying it. It's sad. The free and open flow of opinions is basically a dead concept on this board.
 
nkjanssen said:
Anything is good if you just want to "pick up something and learn how to use it". A ham sandwich would do the trick if you just want to "pick something up and learn how to use it".
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That's not true. Try learning your trade with a Samson CO1! You will not get very far.

It's not about political correctness, it's about the fact that basically, when you put everyone's opinions into the pot you come out somewhere in the middle. I own one of these mics and reckon it's a very good value mic. Chessrock makes a living out of creating the best sounds he possibly can to his subjective ears in his rooms. He wouldn't buy one of these as part of his business. I did buy one as the first LDC I had at home. I reckon my SE2200 will hold its own against any of the colouring mics in that range, such as the Røde NT2, which got raved about when it came out but is basically not such hot shit in my use of it.

It's no biggie - there's no agendas here, I said I'd take the AT if I could only have one, and Chessrock has already made that decision for his own business. Remind me what the problem is again please? :)
 
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