is pro tools software better than samplitude?

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Ford Van said:
Hey sparky, you might want to reconsider making statements you know NOTHING about. I worked in PROFESSIONAL environments for MANY YEARS as an engineer. I am far from "lazy or not every talented".

Just because I HAD to "survive with 24 tracks" doesn't mean I liked it! Also, trying compare what is possible now with 20 year ago productions is silly talk!

There are only a handful of PT supporters here. You are fighting a battle you can never win on this BBS. Continue with a bit of dignity.


Why is it silly to compare technology from 20 years ago to today? I know a lot of professional engineers that swear by the technology of 20+ years ago. Oh and what is it I made statements on that I know nothing about? Maybe you aren't talentless or lazy, but that's also not what I said, I said that if you can't manage to make a great sounding mix in ptle then you either must be lazy or talentless. Are you saying you can't make a great mix with ptle?
 
I suppose I'm a bit of a dumbass. I bought the power Mac and PT back 5 years ago. Everything was too expensive. I ran with it for about a year and just couldn't get my arms around it. I sold it. Back then, there was NO where to get the straight scoop on computer recording/editing. I went through LOTS of platforms and learned the hard way for sure what works, what doesn't, how to do it cheaper, etc. The only reason in my world that I'd want PT is for transportability to other studios as that would be the common ground. I don't need that.
 
i use PT and i like it. I enjoy the platform itself. yeh it has some annoying things, and yeh there are other progs out there that could be coined as "better" (or at least don't have the problems PT has) but the studio that I work at does everything in Tools so its dead handy to have PT at home.

Sure, LE doesn't really compare to HD (ex-TDM), but i mean there's a reason it's called LE right folks? by no means is LE Digidesign's flagship, and i think this should be something NOT overlooked.

i think it's retarded to say "Pro Tools sucks", because i think HD is probably on of the best softwares out there.
 
djclueveli said:
for all u guys who used both softwares (pro tools and samplitude) which one is better for recording and mixing? or is there another program better than both of those?

I'll fall back on preference here. I use PT so that makes me superior to all other DAW users. Sure I have latency issues, track count issues, and the like :D .
I'm jerkin your chain here. I use protools M powered. It's not better than Sampletude, Traction, Logic, or any of the 25 DAW systems out there. It's what I was weened on and it's what I'm most comfortable with. I like the GUI and really like my Project Mix I/O (which is compatible to a number of DAWs). Lets see, M-Audio is a division of Avid/Digi which is making a control surface/AD that's compatible with other DAW software? It would seem that Digi is finally stepping up to the plate of integration. Sure they're known as the snobby kid on the block but maybe that's changing. Maybe Digi knows they have to change?
Bottom line, go out and check them all out. Make a list of what's important to you in a DAW and take that along. Explore the workflow patterns, importability of other audio files, plug-in specs, hardware requirements, and YOU make the decision. Sure advice is good but when you pose a question like this on a heated topic, you're going to get some pretty biased answers in both directions.
Good Luck
 
ridgeback said:
I'll fall back on preference here. I use PT so that makes me superior to all other DAW users. Sure I have latency issues, track count issues, and the like :D .
I'm jerkin your chain here. I use protools M powered. It's not better than Sampletude, Traction, Logic, or any of the 25 DAW systems out there. It's what I was weened on and it's what I'm most comfortable with. I like the GUI and really like my Project Mix I/O (which is compatible to a number of DAWs). Lets see, M-Audio is a division of Avid/Digi which is making a control surface/AD that's compatible with other DAW software? It would seem that Digi is finally stepping up to the plate of integration. Sure they're known as the snobby kid on the block but maybe that's changing. Maybe Digi knows they have to change?
Bottom line, go out and check them all out. Make a list of what's important to you in a DAW and take that along. Explore the workflow patterns, importability of other audio files, plug-in specs, hardware requirements, and YOU make the decision. Sure advice is good but when you pose a question like this on a heated topic, you're going to get some pretty biased answers in both directions.
Good Luck

Digi didn't "step up to the plate at all", they just bought M-Audio, a company I have misgivings about anyway! ;)
 
I think that question can apply to all DAWs.


It's really think its a matter of what you always seem to come back to when getting the job done.


Pro tools has always been readily availible to me, so I think I just developed a kindship with using the software. Plus it's amazingly easy to edit with, so that really lets me focus on the music more than anything else. I've worked with with a lot of different platforms, but I always came back to PT.


Not that it's better or worse than anything, but theoretically, if you feel you can get the best out of the DAW software you work with, then thats just fine.

Besides, its the not the software that is responsible for the sound in the end. That all falls under your front end and outboard gear selection. (well unless youre talking about plugins, that gets a little nutty to go into).


I'm sure if you manage to make all the proper connections and end up having a million dollar SSL hooked to Cool Edit, it could still probably work. (Not that thats the best thing to do :D)
 
i've been using Samp V8 for a little while now and i like it so far. better than Cubase LE which was my main software before, haha. i really have no experience with PT though, so i can't really argue against it, but for the flexability i would say give Samplitude a try and see if you like it.
 
Mainly because they make pretty shitty hardware.

The Delta series is quite good imho. Rock solid drivers, great value. My delta TDIF works a hundred times better than the actual Tascam 822, which was made for my mixer, ever did.
 
jonnyc said:
My point is if you can't MAKE ptle work for you then you or either lazy or not very talented.

In many ways I actually agree with you here. However, in this day and age I should not have to MAKE anything work for me. I should not have to worry about limitations and workarounds. With Cubase SX I don't have to worry about any of that.

Keep in mind though that I never said that the other software was "better". The original question here is whether or not Pro Tools is better than Samplitude. In my opinion, it is not better. For some users however it may be better suited to their needs and workflow, for other users it may not be.
 
xstatic said:
Keep in mind though that I never said that the other software was "better". The original question here is whether or not Pro Tools is better than Samplitude. In my opinion, it is not better. For some users however it may be better suited to their needs and workflow, for other users it may not be.

exactly.

This is something only the original poster can answer.
If he had posted "Does PT or Samplitude have these following features?"....then we could answer. But when it comes to these posts (which turn into a PT flame fest by people like Ford Van), it's like answering what is the best car for me? Everyone who responds is just answering with their opinion. A Honda Civic may be the best car for me because of many reasons, but he could be living in the country and needs a hefty pickup that can pull 4,000lbs.
Opinions vary.

BTW, I use PT. And I make money from it. Amazingly enough.

And...
There are only a handful of PT supporters here. You are fighting a battle you can never win on this BBS. Continue with a bit of dignity.

This is just a funny quote...when trying to enforce the "professional" statement on a home recording forum (not saying that there aren't many professionals that lurk around here, just that the ratio of professional to hobbyist is a little skewed on this board).
And there IS no battle. The only people who turn it into a battle are people like you Ford Van. No PT fan here tries to join a Pro-Cubase or Pro-Reaper post and say "your software sucks"....oddly enough, only people like you do to these PT posts.

:rolleyes:

But of course....the end product matters more than the means of getting there.
In other words, original poster, use whatever you feel comfortable using. NOT what everyone else recommends. If you can get a kick ass album using a four track tape recorder, then go for it. No matter what the people here tell you, no software program is going to do that for you. Period.
 
but what about Reaper benny? I mean, my God, Reaper. I heard that Sgt. Pepper's was actually tracked with Reaper...and it helped Neal Armstrong land on the moon, it wasn't Tang, it was in fact, Reaper.

anywho...download demo's of both and try them out.

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sixways said:
anywho...download demo's of both and try them out.

oops, becareful there. now we're gonna get the "but PT doesn't offer a demo anymore that works for Mac OS or XP. They should offer it free! Even though I know they are a company that sells hardware and not software, but they should offer all their stuff free!"
 
well, if you own any of that crappy M-Audio hardware, you can demo M-Powered.

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sixways said:
well, if you own any of that crappy M-Audio hardware, you can demo M-Powered.

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oh no, but M-Audio is crappy.
Even though they offer their equipment at great prices and have extreme flexibility, they aren't "professional" so we all have issues with them. No one is allowed to like them. If you work as a musician/hobbyist, you can't like M-Audio....they aren't perfect. I mean if you're paying only $200 you should expect the best converters with the best preamps in the world, right?

:rolleyes:
 
Ford Van said:
Mainly because they make pretty shitty hardware.
OK, I have shitty hardware then. Too bad I'm enjoying the hell out of it. At least I think I'm in it for the fun, and to learn.
 
ridgeback said:
OK, I have shitty hardware then. Too bad I'm enjoying the hell out of it. At least I think I'm in it for the fun, and to learn.

oh no, you must be shitty then....
what shitty musician and recorder you are.

people here bash the equipment you use. and they know all. sorry, you'll never record anything good with that.

you should use Reaper. That will cure all.
 
bennychico11 said:
oh no, you must be shitty then....
what shitty musician and recorder you are.

people here bash the equipment you use. and they know all. sorry, you'll never record anything good with that.

you should use Reaper. That will cure all.

Now that is what I call encouragement! :D
 
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