is pro tools software better than samplitude?

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for all u guys who used both softwares (pro tools and samplitude) which one is better for recording and mixing? or is there another program better than both of those?
 
That usually depends on preferences. I personally like Pro Tools, only because I'm using it on a daily basis at the studio. It's pretty straight forward. I'm able to side chain inside of pro tools (I don't know how to in Sonar, which is what I use at home). There are a lot of features in Pro Tools that are helpful & powerful too. Samplitude is a great program too, but I haven't cracked into that one yet. But if you know how to use one program, you should know how to do basic stuff in other programs as well. Other than that, Pro Tools can be only used with Digidesign/M-Audio hardware. All the other programs have the advantage of being able to be used with anything else.

At home, I personally like Sonar, because whenever I do overdub's, they automatically line them up together for me so that they fit word for word so to speak. Less editing for me.
 
Personally I like samplitude... But just like mindset said, its all about personal preference. They all basically do the same thing, they just have different ways of doing it.
 
I think you have to spend some big bucks on a Pro Tools rig before it can stand up to Samplitude.
 
I couldn't live without the object-based editing in Samp.

Nathan
 
I would vote for anything other than ProToolz! Don't get caught in that money trap!!!
 
Ford Van said:
I would vote for anything other than ProToolz! Don't get caught in that money trap!!!
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What money trap? 1200 bucks for an 18 input interface and software. Samplitude is a grand all by itself. I've had the same exact set up for nearly 3 years and haven't put anymore money into it than I did on day one. Your thinking is one of the worst reasons not to use protools, there are valid reasons not to but that isn't one of them.
 
jonnyc said:
What money trap? 1200 bucks for an 18 input interface and software. Samplitude is a grand all by itself. I've had the same exact set up for nearly 3 years and haven't put anymore money into it than I did on day one. Your thinking is one of the worst reasons not to use protools, there are valid reasons not to but that isn't one of them.
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I see.....

Can you send me an OMF of one of your projects please?

I'll see that $300 later.

Hey, how about I send you a 40 track project! Oh wait, you can't handle that without paying for an upgrade.

Let me send you some VST plugin's to use. Oh wait, you gonna need to buy a VST>RTAS adaptor. Get your wallet out.

:o Must I go on?
 
Ford Van said:
I see.....

Can you send me an OMF of one of your projects please?

I'll see that $300 later.

Hey, how about I send you a 40 track project! Oh wait, you can't handle that without paying for an upgrade.

Let me send you some VST plugin's to use. Oh wait, you gonna need to buy a VST>RTAS adaptor. Get your wallet out.

:o Must I go on?
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This is the reason I sold my old PT rig.
 
Ford Van said:
I see.....

Can you send me an OMF of one of your projects please?

I'll see that $300 later.

Hey, how about I send you a 40 track project! Oh wait, you can't handle that without paying for an upgrade.

Let me send you some VST plugin's to use. Oh wait, you gonna need to buy a VST>RTAS adaptor. Get your wallet out.

:o Must I go on?
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All very weak arguements. Not one of those things are of any interest to me. I never hit more than 32 tracks, I never use VST, and all the studios I've ever sent files to have been pro tools based. I understand where you're coming from though, it's fun to try to beat down the big dog and use the same old boring bullshit arguements against it.
 
Track Rat said:
This is the reason I sold my old PT rig.
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So let me get this right, it worked for you and then all the sudden it didn't do what you wanted it to? What did it stop doing that made it so bad you had to get rid of it, did you not research your purchase enough?
 
Talk about weak arguements.....:rolleyes:

It is funny how ProTool users think the rest of us should do without really basic stuff just because they have to.

How's the plugin delay compensation coming along in LE? ;)
 
Ford Van said:
Talk about weak arguements.....:rolleyes:

It is funny how ProTool users think the rest of us should do without really basic stuff just because they have to.

How's the plugin delay compensation coming along in LE? ;)
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I don't use any plugs that introduce any noticable delay. I never said you had to do without the basics. What I am saying is that everything you mentioned does not bother me, it's not needed by me and I did enough research and reading to know what I wanted and needed from a software. I've given other software a try but nothing works for me like pro tools does. So, are you saying you can't create a great mix with ptle? I'm pretty sure you probably could, you just choose not to. People like you and Fletcher and others like to lead people to believe that ptle is so crippled it's not even useable, which isn't the case at all.
 
Actually, with a lot of the types of things I do in a mix, I would have a lot of problems with the plugin delay! I would be VERY pissed off at a 32 track count limit too! It is not uncommon for my mixes to start running into 40+ tracks!

I would also be very sore to not have the host of VST's that I like available to me and be forced to use a bunch of high cpu taxing stuff that is generally available as RTAS.
 
Ford Van said:
Actually, with a lot of the types of things I do in a mix, I would have a lot of problems with the plugin delay! I would be VERY pissed off at a 32 track count limit too! It is not uncommon for my mixes to start running into 40+ tracks!

I would also be very sore to not have the host of VST's that I like available to me and be forced to use a bunch of high cpu taxing stuff that is generally available as RTAS.
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I understand and think it's great there are so many options available to you and others. Me, I like pro tools, I tried not to but I just do. I also take the minimalist approach to most mixes and use mostly digirack plugs(eqIII and compIII are very nice) which doesn't use much cpu at all. My mixes seldom leave me wanting more tracks or more plug options. BTW just for arguments sake, pro tools mpowered, plus the 48 track option, plus the OMF(whatever it's called)option, plus the vst wrapper comes pretty close to the same price as samplitude maybe even a bit under.
 
jonnyc said:
People like you and Fletcher and others like to lead people to believe that ptle is so crippled it's not even useable, which isn't the case at all.
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This all depends on who is using it. In a profesisonal environment, and even a semi professional environment or just compared to other basic applications PTLE is crippled in many ways and for many of us this crippling factors do leave it pretty unusable. Plugin delay compensation is a major issue for the majority of DAW users, and track count is also big for many of us. This is before even delving into the overrated overpriced hardware they force you to use. M powered at least brought some more affordable options to the table, but then again you are still stuck with pretty poor quality hardware (comparatively).
 
i'd take my onyx 1640 w/ the included tracktion software over any interface/control surface that's currently offered with PTLE

now if i had a shitload of cash for a true HD setup, things might be a different story...but for the at-home/budget-conscious engineer, i think PT is probably the least economical way to go
 
xstatic said:
This all depends on who is using it. In a profesisonal environment, and even a semi professional environment or just compared to other basic applications PTLE is crippled in many ways and for many of us this crippling factors do leave it pretty unusable. Plugin delay compensation is a major issue for the majority of DAW users, and track count is also big for many of us. This is before even delving into the overrated overpriced hardware they force you to use. M powered at least brought some more affordable options to the table, but then again you are still stuck with pretty poor quality hardware (comparatively).
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I work with it in a semi professional enviroment several times per week. Works flawlessly and I never need more than 32 tracks and if I did there are certainly ways around it. Most bands up until 20 years ago were stuck with no more than 24 tracks, if they can handle it so can I. My point is if you can't MAKE ptle work for you then you or either lazy or not very talented.
 
jonnyc said:
I work with it in a semi professional enviroment several times per week. Works flawlessly and I never need more than 32 tracks and if I did there are certainly ways around it. Most bands up until 20 years ago were stuck with no more than 24 tracks, if they can handle it so can I. My point is if you can't MAKE ptle work for you then you or either lazy or not very talented.
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Hey sparky, you might want to reconsider making statements you know NOTHING about. I worked in PROFESSIONAL environments for MANY YEARS as an engineer. I am far from "lazy or not every talented".

Just because I HAD to "survive with 24 tracks" doesn't mean I liked it! Also, trying compare what is possible now with 20 year ago productions is silly talk!

There are only a handful of PT supporters here. You are fighting a battle you can never win on this BBS. Continue with a bit of dignity.
 
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