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Thanx for explanation, Tim. I understand what you're saying. And I agree. I have to say that I'm not using the BBE to mask or make up for anything. I do try and get the best possible sound right from tracking. I just thought slapping it on and the end of a mix seperated the highs and lows (whatever that means). I just put both nobs at 1, and barely hear the difference. I'm not trying to defend using it. Seems by what everyone here is saying, I should throw it out, and I will re-do my songs without it to see the difference.
As far as the L1 is concerend, is that also a mistake??? Again, I never set it to reduce the gain by more than 3 db, so I'm not using it squash the hell out of my mix. But if that's something I shouldn't be using, I'll try to mix without that, too.

Thanx for the advice, peeps...And Tim, I visited your site...very impressive, I must say. I'll definitely take your advice when you're willing to give it...thanx again.
 
Thanks Rami.

From the way you're describing how you work it sounds like you're already doing everything exactly like you should because you're trying things and trusting your ear. There's nothing honestly that matters as much as that. Gear's secondary. Just experiment.

Tim
 
Just something to add..

Run a well mastered CD through and and have a listen. You'll find that it doesnt' do much if anything for it.
Now run your own stuff through it. You may notice it trying to "Band-Aid" your sonic "flaws". (As Tim refered)

Just an observation.
 
Hard to tell without A/Bing the two versions and unfortunately I heard the first one by streaming so it's not saved on my box. So it could just be my mood today but I'd say it sounds noticeably better. Now I bet you're going to say this was a perception test and you didn't really make any changes!! :D

Tim
 
HA! Nah, I wouldn't do that to you guys. What if I got caught? I did take it off, but like I said, there wasn't much on there in the first place. Besides, like you said, without having both versions, it would be hard to tell considering you haven't heard this tune 1000 times like I have. Thanx again.
 
I didn't hear the first version, but this sounds great. Amazing funky groove, great lyrics, good playing nice space created for all the instruments. Hard to believe one person is doing all this one track at a time...let alone someone who's main instrument is the drums...lol.
My one slight beef is that the vocals are a bit too bright IMO, but everything else is spot on. A couple of guest appearences by Dubya Bush tops it all off. Thumbs up.
 
RAMI, cool song. But...................
At around 58sec the vocals sound different. Volume seems to drop a bit.
It could just be the speakers on this computer.



PS, dump the bbe :D :D :D :D
 
everyone here's down on the bbe, who cares.
it can be used for good or evil, just make sure you use it for good.
(many people really abuse it, giveing it it's reputation)
haveing said that, i won't bother to buy one.

good recording, just a few things.

i think you used a little to much compression, specifically on the mix, but the gits (i may be wrong, sorry if i am) seem to be steped on kinda hard.
a little fatigueing because of it.


edit at 2:58???? (ish)

what cimbals/overheads are you useing??
something about them just dosn't sit right.

i'm being seriously critical here, so take it lightly
it sounds really good to me.
 
Thanx for the comments guys...
Ok, first of all, there is NO BBE on this mix, so we can drop the BBE talk...LOL.

Timboz, I tried to listen but couldn't hear what you were talking about. As far as my far from perfect ears can tell, there is no volume drop around the :58 mark. Not saying you're wrong, I just don't hear it.

Thanx alot, Supercreep.

Giraffe, I appreciate you going into a bit of detail. The guitars don't really have that much compression on them at all. The left side clean guit sounds compressed because I played that lick by plucking the strings with my thumb and index finger to get that heavy attack. SO I can see why that would sound like compression, but it's sort of deliberate. And there is no edit when you mentioned, but there is a sort of space before the crash that might sound like that. I don't even know how to edit a complete mix in software.
I do appreciate the comments though. I'd rather get detailed ones then just a pat on the back.
 
RAMI said:
I'd rather get detailed ones then just a pat on the back.
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yea, sometimes it's hard to get an honest teardown around here.
 
RAMI said:
Timboz, I tried to listen but couldn't hear what you were talking about. As far as my far from perfect ears can tell, there is no volume drop around the :58 mark. Not saying you're wrong, I just don't hear it.
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Sounds much better on my home PC.. Must have been the cheep speakers at work. Sorry about that. My ears are not even close to being perfect.
 
i'm not crazy about the snare, i'd like to hear a bit more high end.
but then again, everything i mix has a bit too much high end.
 
dang, thats nice.
out of my league, I leave the criticism to people with better ears.
nice funky tune, I'm a sucker for any bush quotes.
C.
 
Yeah, sometimes we're all being too nice, but this one doesn't have much to tear down. Rami, how come you're not doing the usual rec newbie thing of EQing it into phase oblivion and compressing into a rectangular waveform at 0 dB? You're killing the conversation, buddy.

Seriously, the only thing I heard that's needing upgrade is some of the gear, and that's an excellent problem to have - kind of the opposite of the usual.

BTW, my previous post ranting about processing as masking for problems wasn't intended to say YOU were doing those things, just that its common generally.

Tim
 
Timothy Lawler said:
Rami, how come you're not doing the usual rec newbie thing of EQing it into phase oblivion and compressing into a rectangular waveform at 0 dB?
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Hehe...Thanx Tim. Well, I try to approach mixing the way I play: Less is more. But not only that. I figure I'm better off just going with what I know, which is not much. There's less chance of ruining a song if I under-produce it rather than over-produce it.
 
yea, everyonce in a while some kid posts a song on here, and it goes something like this

"i recorded this with the am radio out of a dump truck and a radio shack mic in the subway, what do you think"???

and every once in a while, that kids stuff blows me a way.

(dammit)
 
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