Doctor Varney
Cave dwelling Luddite
Go easy on the popcorn... or you'll get indigestion.
Mac is just overpriced overrated piece of fashion not pro gear, and people that swear by it just can't admit to themselves that they spent money on crap.
I am seriously considering migrating my studio from Logic on an old quad core Xeon 2.0 GHz MacPro to a PC with Cubase.
My reasons? I am using more and more plug-ins such as orchestral libraries, soft synths, processors and my current cpu is not coping.
I would get a new Mac Pro and lots of Ram except Apple may or may not continue to the line ( especially in Europe) and they don't seem that interested in a new Logic version. I'm fed up with this situation and need to get on. So.....
I'd be willing to spend up to £2500.00 on a very quiet PC (macpro is virtually silent) but does anyone know if I'd have to get new licences for PC versions of all my third party plug-ins? Melodyne, Predator, Cinematic Strings, Waves CLA sig, Vienna Ensemble Pro 5 etc etc. And what about my PCIe Motu audio interface? Would that have to be replaced.
Has anyone here done this? It's a bit scary. I need stability and processing power. 64bit, 32GB ram a few large drives ( I can always get extra external ones.
Any advice would be gratefully received although if Apple get their act together I may stay with what I know.
Thanks
I can't agree with your assertion " Mac is just overpriced overrated piece of fashion not pro gear, and people that swear by it just can't admit to themselves that they spent money on crap"To OP: just buy PC, build your own setup, get some i7 quad core, 8gb or 16gb, hybrid ssd/HHD, decent graphic card so your processor gets easier life I build strong PC six months ago with i5 CPU and its just flawless, it didn't hiccup for a split second yet. Another positive thing is you can expand its capabilities any time. To answer your questions about licences, they'll work on both PC and Mac as long as you not using them at the same time. If you building your PC just make sure you visit benchmarking websites so you can clearly see how much horse power you get. My CPU on cpubenchmarks got about 5500 points, it may not be the fastest CPU available but as I wrote before it didn't cause any problems, and I'm using pro tools, ableton and east west plugings and waves plugs in multiple instances no problem, when my Mac is dying after I use like 5 instances of tape emulation, and I bought this Mac brand new Jan 2012. Mac is just overpriced overrated piece of fashion not pro gear, and people that swear by it just can't admit to themselves that they spent money on crap.
I don't see any reason for 32 GB of RAM. My cupport for animation suggests that that is overkill even for animation rendering. As for licensing, you need to contact your suppliers of the plugins. Adobe allows use on two computers; I'm sure the others will too. You can still owrk on the quad core and edit on the PC. I would ask for help on custom building the PC from others but here are my computer specs. I spent about $2000 USD.....................
I hope that helps a bit. Good Luck,
Rod Norman
I'd just like to add that there is some news on the future installment of Logic (see macrumors). And it's highly doubtful that they'll pull anything with Logic like they did with FCPX.
I'm also in the market for a new compy, specifically the Mac Pro (primarily for motion graphics and 3D stuff) but I'm holding out until they release the new one this year. Also gunna wait till Logic is upgraded too
If I was in your situation (and I kind of am- but in a slightly different way), I'd calculate how long you can/want to hold out for until Apple releases da goods. But if you find owning and maintaining a PC is more appealing to you, go for it (if your up for that kind of thing).
But I'm excited to see what is in store from Apple this year, and I don't think it will be disappointing!
Either way, good luck with your choice!
The thing to do is pick the application(s) that you want to use, and then get the platform that they will run best on (Mac or PC). Some run better on instead the other....based how they were designed and for which platform primarily. Yes, there are those that run on both, but it's not always identical.
Then you have some apps that only run on one or the other.
Why people get so caught up on just hardware debates is like worrying about which horse to get to pull the cart...and you still haven't picked the cart yet.
I have always used a PC as my primary music machine. I tried the whole mac thing and returned it a week later.
I run:
AMD 8 Core 64 bit processor on a Gigabyte motherboard.
32 Gigs of Ram.
1tb drive as my windows 7 x64 pro OS disk (c
3tb drive as my program disk and plugins(d
3tb drive for loops and samples (e
3TB drive for masters (f
Blue Ray burner (g
and a 21-1 card reader
Now most of my equipment is current, therefore it supports USB, HOWEVER if your gear does not support USB, then there are sound cards and I/o devices out there that will support a decent studio m-audio PCI Audio Interfaces section is a good place to start. Hope this helps.
Very interesting. What DAW do you use and how much would that all cost? Is your rig quiet? I have my Macbookpro connected via ethernet to my Macpro and the only sound I hear is a couple of external LaCie HDs whirring. I've heard PCs can be noisy unless you get expensive PSUs, fans and cases etc. I have been playing around with sites configuring a PC and there is a bewildering number of choices for each such component.
Is AMD as good as Intel i7/i5 etc?