Idea :)

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Okay guys, this is just an idea, or consider it a 'feasibilty study'

This idea isn't perfect by far, so please don't flame, rather - give me some contructive feedback.


I'm interested in setting up a website that has sound samples of mic's in different positions on various instruments.

For example:

a D112 mic in a bass drum. Examples of the typical sounds that can be achieved by changing the angle and distance etc.

A small picture (based on the same one for all bass drums) could be made, showing the angle and distance of the mic in reference to the center of the skin. Next to this, a brief description of the equipment used and any other things that could alter the sound.

Now, I know you guys are gonna say that we'd all need the same mic pre's and perfect rooms etc. And, Ideally we would. But, the idea of this is not to serve the Studio proffesional, but to serve the small project studio type guy, who doesn't always have the time and money to try different mices in different positions etc.


Give me some feedback, and maybe some ideas on how to polish this idea. I think it could be a pretty good site.

Cheers

Rochey
 
IMHO I think it would be a great idea, and it would help a lot of starters. (including me):p
 
in theory, its a great idea.....and just for reference, i guess it could help how to start....but many factors such as the quality of the room, the drums, the tuning, the palying, the pre, etc. will need to be considered......
 
Of course that would be great if you used budget-priced but quality equipment, like a SM57, etc.
 
Okay, I'll start work on it this weekend...

For now, I'd like to start with the drum kit, and where are the good places to place the mic's for each drum etc.

I will also write a method on how to write up your mic placement - basically how to draw it all in 3 dimentions around the drums/instrument/amplifier

And then also, how to record the mic. So, as high a level as possible without distorting, a measure of the amount of gain used. A report on what equipment besides the mic was used. And that all files are 16bit 44kbit mono files.

The next question is: how much bandwidth per month would a project like this take, and if it is a high amount, is there any way of getting sponsorship etc.

my current ISP allows me 2 gigs of throughput per month. I get the feeling that this will not be enough as people start downloadinthese files.

anyone got some ideas and feedback?

Cheers

R
 
The guy who runs nowhereradio.com can answer your questions I think. His name's Waldo. He posts here regularly in the mp3 clinic and in the Cave.
 
Great idea.

Shailat has some articles on drum mixing, compression and reverb somewhere on the web, complete with audio samples and everything. Maybe you could look at his site to get some ideas?

I think it used to be on a geocities site once. Maybe ask him about it?
 
Yeah, its a great idea!
On a less involved scale, I started to set this up but the "host" was down for a while, and I lost interest. ;)
 
well, for starters, there is no way I could run this kinda thing from home!!!

I'm hoping to keep it on a server i keep for a few different websites.

At the moment, there is on average 1.7gigs of bandwidth left per month on the account

do you guys think this is enough?

cheers

R
 
Take into account the size of the files, and multiply each by how many downloads you expect per month.

Next, find out if the limitation is in giga bits, or giga bytes. If it's in giga-bits, multiply the number above (in bytes) by 8.

i.e., 1 - 5MB clip with a 2Gb limit (giga-bit) would allow 51.2 downloads before exceeding the download limit.

However, if that's a 2GB(giga-byte) limit, you could get 409.6 downloads out of it before exceeding the download limit.

W.
 
Take into account the size of the files, and multiply each by how many downloads you expect per month.

Next, find out if the limitation is in giga bits, or giga bytes. If it's in giga-bits, multiply the number above (in bytes) by 8.

i.e., 1 - 5MB clip with a 2Gb limit (giga-bit) would allow 51.2 downloads before exceeding the download limit.

However, if that's a 2GB(giga-byte) limit, you could get 409.6 downloads out of it before exceeding the download limit.

W.
 
well, my initial plan is to have each file being around 10 seconds long mono file recorded at 16bit/24bit 44.1k

I really do not want to pay out of my own pocket for this one, so any advice you guys can give would be much appreciated. Is some kind of sponsorship available for this kind of project?

also, I was hoping to make it 'self-sustainable' - so I wouldn't have to write new html all the time for each page. My PHP skills aren't really all that good, so, I was considering using a BBS, where people post as they would here, but attach a pictures of their setup, as well as upload the audio files.

Just an idea.

Feedback is more than appreciated!

Cheers

D
 
'10 second long mono', in what file format?

If you are talking WAV, each file could easily be 1MB in size.

Sponsorship for a project like this? What would the sponsor get out of it?

W.
 
Waldo, I'm just trying to think outside of the box :)

Maybe one of the mic manufacturers? AKG or someone? Or maybe some of the online music stores?

I dunno, I'm just trying to think of every possible option...

1meg for a mono 10 second file...

Feck.

okay, would an mp3 do the job better? in which case, they would all have to be encoded to the same quality etc.... urghhh
 
Mp3 would shrink the size, but degrade the quality and destroy half the point of this. I wouldn't want my mic compared to someone elses via. Mp3 because mp3 will distort the quality. And the sometimes minute effects of positioning could be lost...

If you get someone 'involved' to sponsor you doing this, then you'll be expected to be biased in their direction. Or they might just drop a few ads on, who knows, ask around.

If you could find someone to sponsor the expense, I'd be happy to host the project for you, but I can't really do it for free, because bandwidth costs me! Roughly $5/GB is what it runs me, so depending on how popular, it could cost little to nothing for the first while.

W.
 
Roel said:
Great idea.

Shailat has some articles on drum mixing, compression and reverb somewhere on the web, complete with audio samples and everything. Maybe you could look at his site to get some ideas?

I think it used to be on a geocities site once. Maybe ask him about it?
Click to expand...

They are curently up here http://24.61.194.88/

I also have a space problem and I'm looking for something more stable at the moment.

If you have any questions then fire away.
 
Waldo, I've considered the issues with the MP3 etc. I think it's gotta be 16bit PCM mono files. I think that'll be the easiest for people (including me) to do, and the most clear for peoples applications.

I think i'll start it on my own webspace for now, and then if things go over 1 gig per month (who knows eh?) then i'll consider moving to a new host.

What would be the best way to organise it? So far, some kind of BBS would be easiest for me. With people being able to upload pictures of the setup and sound clips.

Waldo, you seem to have the most experience at this, can you think of a better way to do it?

cheers

R
 
Yeah, that aint a problem..

Would the attached files actually be part of the dbase? or would the dbase just contain links to the files?

cheers

R
 
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