Ibanez guitars - ultimate suckage

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A true craftsman does not blame his tools. Granted, some real budget guitars aren't very playable, or inspiring to play, but most guitars with enough work can be quite usable. The question is if that particular guitar is worth the time effort to make it playable to you. Do you think the original blues players had the best guitars available at that time, or some crappy $10 Stella that they made work for them? Prince plays mostly some cheap Hohner Tele 'copy'. David Lindley tried to be a rebel playing cheap and crappy Japanese guitars like Eko, Kay, National, or Tesco. If you can play, you can play anything. Or almost anything. If you have tiny hands, any 'thin-as-fuck' neck is a God send. I've seen many vintage Fenders with shaved necks, so there has to people who have hands smaller than yours.
Anyway, if you don't like something, don't buy it. There's a reason ice cream comes in chocolate or vanilla.
 
ranjam said:
A true craftsman does not blame his tools. Granted, some real budget guitars aren't very playable, or inspiring to play, but most guitars with enough work can be quite usable. The question is if that particular guitar is worth the time effort to make it playable to you. Do you think the original blues players had the best guitars available at that time, or some crappy $10 Stella that they made work for them? Prince plays mostly some cheap Hohner Tele 'copy'. David Lindley tried to be a rebel playing cheap and crappy Japanese guitars like Eko, Kay, National, or Tesco. If you can play, you can play anything. Or almost anything. If you have tiny hands, any 'thin-as-fuck' neck is a God send. I've seen many vintage Fenders with shaved necks, so there has to people who have hands smaller than yours.
Anyway, if you don't like something, don't buy it. There's a reason ice cream comes in chocolate or vanilla.
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If Ibanez made ice cream it would taste like shit.
 
ranjam said:
A true craftsman does not blame his tools. Granted, some real budget guitars aren't very playable, or inspiring to play, but most guitars with enough work can be quite usable. The question is if that particular guitar is worth the time effort to make it playable to you. Do you think the original blues players had the best guitars available at that time, or some crappy $10 Stella that they made work for them? Prince plays mostly some cheap Hohner Tele 'copy'. David Lindley tried to be a rebel playing cheap and crappy Japanese guitars like Eko, Kay, National, or Tesco. If you can play, you can play anything. Or almost anything. If you have tiny hands, any 'thin-as-fuck' neck is a God send. I've seen many vintage Fenders with shaved necks, so there has to people who have hands smaller than yours.
Anyway, if you don't like something, don't buy it. There's a reason ice cream comes in chocolate or vanilla.
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Lol. This guy clearly loves his Ibanez.


I agree that Ibanez guitars are crap. And yes, I probably do need lessons and a guitar tech, but they're still shitty crap.
 
I'm not getting it ...... I don't see where Ibanez is really any different than the rest of the import gits.
No I don't have one .... the only one I ever had (wish I still had it) was an Artist from the first year they came out. It was basically a double cut paul. It was an awesome git but that was, lemme see, 30 years ago so I haven't had a more recent one.
 
Lt. Bob said:
I'm not getting it ...... I don't see where Ibanez is really any different than the rest of the import gits.
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Because a whole load of companys build far superior instruments for a lot less cash, how is that hard to get? :D
 
CMunch said:
Because a whole load of companys build far superior instruments for a lot less cash, how is that hard to get? :D
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oh ............ well now that you've explained it I DO see the difference!

:D:D:D
 
I think the strat bodied Ibanez necks are too thin, the sound is too thin, the frets are too huge, and the overall feel is tiny and frail. Like playing a toy. And just like Corvettes carry a gold-chain wearing guido stigma, the strat bodied Ibanez makes me think of spandex hair metal and bad shredding.

The Artcores I've played were okay, but for a few dollars more you can get an entry level Gretsch and have a hollowbody that plays and sounds right.

That's my take on Ibanez.
 
I don't like Ibanez because most of the ones I've played are setup for shredders. Huge frets, super hot pickups, weird shapes, mega thin necks. I just don't prefer them...I guess they're not bad, just not what I'd use.

I like stuff that's old, teles, strats, LPs, SGs, Jaguars. Ibanez feels too modern for the music I want to make.

But, again, chocolate, vanilla, strawberry...who cares...pick what you like and go play.
 
I almost said I have never owned an Ibanez, but I remembered owning a 335 clone years ago. That was a fine guitar. I haven't bought a 'new' guitar in 20+ years, so maybe I shouldn't defend Ibanez. I've played quite a few, and many basses, but 'owning' any? I shouldn't have been such a cheerleader. For some reason, I've been snapping up 80's Tokai guitars and basses, so maybe I really don't like Ibanez either? Still, people buy them, and people who play a lot better than you or I, and sell more records than you or I, use them. So I let it go, and that's always the point I was making very poorly. I don't need my parents telling me what guitar to buy or like.
 
ranjam said:
Still, people buy them, and people who play a lot better than you or I, and sell more records than you or I, use them.
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Those people would play better and sell more records than us no matter what guitar they use. No one buys a record based on what guitars are being used.
 
Greg_L said:
Those people would play better and sell more records than us no matter what guitar they use. No one buys a record based on what guitars are being used.
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or on playing better. Selling records has very little to do with how good you are.
 
I think it has something to do with a banana in a sock or something lol :D:D:D:D
 
Oi vey. My point was that these players can have any guitar they want, probably have companies lined up trying to get them to endorse 'Brand X', and many are very good guitar players. Yet some of these players pick Ibanez. Beats the Hell out of me why. But you see the whole enchilada; Rich Robinson with a few original Zematis guitars, down to Tom Morello endorsing Kramer. To each his own. But the Ibanez list is massive. Buckethead, George Benson, Phil Collen, Marty Friedman, Frank Gambale, Paul Gilbert, Allan Holdsworth, Herman Li, John Petrucci, John Scofield, Mick Thomson, Andy Timmons, Steve Vai..... and that's maybe 25% of the 'list'. There has to be someone on the list that you respect.
Again, I don't play Ibanez, or have a share in the company. I'm just saying painting any company with the broad 'they suck' brush is just displaying ignorance. Ibanez isn't losing sleep over this, and neither am I.
You want to get into a real they suck/they don't suck debate? I live in Canada, where just mentioning 'Nickleback' starts a barroom brawl. :spank:
 
I have an RG270 and love it!!..I`ve had it for about ten years...
 
I've had a couple. First one was alright, but among my first guitars so I didn't have much experience yet. I've got a Ghostrider that is badass. They didn't make them for long, but they're a unique design for Inanez.
 
I may get some crap for this comment, but this whole thing sounds ridiculous.....

The player is what makes any instrument worthy. Crappy guitar made by ?, in the continent of ? What region of the world are the drum shells made from? Who friggen cares. Play the damn thing well, and any instrument works. Ibanez, DW, Harmony, Hondo, Peavy, PDP, Ovation, Fender, ESP, whatever. Those who judge a guitar or any instrument by the maker, where it is made, or whatever, are IMO, just blabbering for the sake of conversation.

Yes I have my favorites for my own taste, and the crappy Ibanez crap, is just as crappy as any low end crap made these days. That is nothing new. But calling out a particular brand, and blaming the instrument, seems a bit boring and......hell, I don't even know what crappy is...

My personal opinion: I myself, do not claim to be a great player of anything, but the times that I have seen the ones who are, they can make any guitar/drum/harp/washboard/kazoo, that anyone would call crap, sound like 'them', and make the instrument work. If one hasn't found their own sound yet, don't blame the instrument. You possibly just don't feel comfortable with it. Or you have not the skills to play it. Or, possibly, the instrument just sucks.

Yeah, most cheap Ibanez guitars/basses I have played, have sucked. But nothing sucks more, than hearing a great player make your cheap ass guitar sound like god, just by playing it like it is his bitch. Actually, that doesn't suck, it is a pleasure to hear.

Alright, rant over.

Wasting time giving blanket commentary on an instrument that just doesn't feel good to you, is IMO, just a waste of time. Play it. Whatever 'it' is.

Greg could make this kit work.
 
ranjam said:
But the Ibanez list is massive. Buckethead, George Benson, Phil Collen, Marty Friedman, Frank Gambale, Paul Gilbert, Allan Holdsworth, Herman Li, John Petrucci, John Scofield, Mick Thomson, Andy Timmons, Steve Vai..... and that's maybe 25% of the 'list'. There has to be someone on the list that you respect.
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Nope......the names on that little list that i do recognize play shit music that I hate, so no respect from me.

I don't care who plays Ibanez guitars. I think Ibanez is crap for a variety of reasons. They're all good reasons and they're my reasons. Therefore, they are crap.
 
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