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How tha f...can i get ride of the noise that my monitor (..it stops when i shut it down..?..) makes everytime i plug my guitar into the amplifier or the mixer...???....
...please i´m begin you good people,help,help me!,i cant work anymore more with this nuclear noise rumbling on the speakers...
- its not my guitar cable
- its not the amp
- its not the guitar
-its not the cpu to close
-its not Elvis
- what the f...can it be...
please ,please, if anyone has a clue on this that can lead me out of this nightmare...all my recordings have this "brruuummm" cos of that noise being picked up by the microphones....and then if turn the monitor off it stops!.::::(
tHANK YOU!
 
MY friend i dont know what you talking about ,many thanks anyway but what is that? how much it costs,and why do i have this wierd phenomenum going on my little studio?
 
Patient, "It hurts when I do this" - Doctor, "Stop doing that"

OrangeGangster said:
How tha f...can i get ride of the noise that my monitor (..it stops when i shut it down....and then if turn the monitor off it stops
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I think you answered your own question. If it stops when you turn the monitor off, turn the monitor off! Just get all your levels right, turn off the monitor, record, turn the monitor back on for mixing etc. It may not be elegant, but it is cheaper than a flat panel monitor.
 
...again..i´ve always had this thing happening in my place but i was always delaying to get it solved,i work in a bigger studio and they dont have that shit happening,so i thought it could be some minor arrangemant ...
Now, i´m buying a new mixer for my birthday next mouth and that will take all my money for a while...but if thats the only way i can solve this them surely i will by that flat lcd you mention.
is that the only way to get ride of it?...what is causing this?
i rather have this thing first,sure,but how much $$$$if its rthe only solution?,please..
thanks a lot!!
 
Hi OrangeGanster,

Try moving away from your monitor when you record
with your guitar. Even turning your back to the
monitor should help.

Mike
 
mr. brzillian,thanks ...i will follow that link and learn!...
mr. neirbo,thanks...how can i use my sequencer in the pc if i´ve got no monitor?i need to watch the diferents parts of a song ,i´m recording alone most of the time,i only have 4 arms and no degree on telepatics,and i cant turn on-turn off my monitor everytime i´m tring a new phrasing on the guitar that will be fine on that compase insted of the other one before...thanks anyway mate..
 
man@work said:
Hi OrangeGanster,

Try moving away from your monitor when you record
with your guitar. Even turning your back to the
monitor should help.

Mike
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...it only reduces the noise a little but it´s still there..i´ve tryed all that even exchanged the mon.with the same results...at one time i thought it cuoould be the cable so i bough a stereo one but all´s the same..it must be inside the monitor box...mr. brzillian is probably right.
Thanks anyway you all--!!!
 
If you have single coil pickups they will get interference from monitors and any elecrtical devices within a few feet.

All the things you said were not the problem ARE the problem. Get better cables, get farther away(5ft or more) from the video monitor and get a power conditioner with RFI and EMI filtering and MAYBE it will go away.

Or get a guitar with HUMbuckers.
 
It's very possible (actually very probable) that NONE of your equipment is the problem. I've been on an ongoing quest for the last 10 months since moving to my new house to solve exactly this problem - so far, it appears to be the result of interference from some nearby radio towers that are about a mile away (I get the same type of buzz on my car's AM radio) when driving in my neighborhood. If you have towers nearby, call the owners and ask whether that could be causing it (be courteous and not accusatory). They may be able to put you in touch with an engineer who can help. But, if they are broadcasting within FCC guidelines, they may not be able to do much to help you without weakening their signal.

It could also be the result of a ham radio being operated near you.

I suggest you set up your gear in a location near your house (i.e., a neighbor's house within a half mile - the closer to your studio the better) and see if the problem continues there. Also, call an electrician and have him/her check all of the grounds in your house/apartment, as well as the quality of the current coming into your house (i.e., probably through one of those ugly green boxes in your yard or your neighbor's yard). That will help rule out simple root causes.

But, like I said before, it could be that the conductors in your amplification equipment are picking up over-the-air electrical interference - that's a hard problem to resolve, and very frustrating. The way you lay your cables helps cut it down, but getting rid of it completely is another story.

I hope you have better luck that I have had!

ARC
 
RFI and EMI problems are both solved with balanced lines. A humbucker in a guitar has the two pickups in reverse phase from each other, thus interferrence is cut out.

I move away from my monitor when I use my G&L (with single coild puckups) strat to record. With my custom made guitar, with it's Seymore Duncan Invader (humbucker) pickup, I don't have to move away.

It isn't radio stations, power lines, unfiltered interference in the AC, or any of that other stuff. Regular computer monitors emit a lot of EMI, and that is what you have to deal with. Move away from it, and the problem goes away. Or, use a humbucker pickup.

Oh, and make sure that the monitor is plugged into the same AC circuit as the audio chain is. You will wanna avoid 60 cycle ground loops too.

Eddie
 
Instead of facing the monitor rotate slowly and listen until the noise is quietest.
In my case if I point the headstock straight at the monitor the noise goes away.
 
Have you tried swapping your monitor with another one (borrow one from a friend)? It could be a particularly bad monitor, they are all supposed to have some shielding but they all spew RF. Some more than others.
 
Actually, it very well could be power lines, radio signals, transformers, etc. Especially if the same exact equipment setup worked well in another location in the past (believe me, I've done a lot of research on this, out of necessity, and even called several local recording studio for advice). That's not to say that the PC monitor, pickups, etc. are not at fault as well (either in addition to other problems, or exclusively). All I'm saying is don't rule anything out - try to tackle this in the order of the easiest (and cheapest) possible solutions.

OrangeGangster - Run a google search on terms like electrical interference, RFI, amplification, etc. - you'll find a lot of interesting reading that may give you some good insights.

Good luck!

ARC
 
OH man, you must be new...

ED is god here...

do not contradict him, this man can destroy your future recordings by the blink of an eye... *whisper; he's got connections with the god of recording...don't fuck with him*

Guhlenn
 
If he turns his monitor off and the noise disappears, then it's the monitor.

Everybody has this exact same problem when tracking guitars near computer monitors; some more than others. You'll just have to deal with it.

1) Move back.
2) Turn perpendicular to the monitor. It's sort of hard to maintain this position but most of the noise will disappear.
3) Look into a better shielded monitor or a flat panel.
4) Turn the monitor off while tracking (ouch).

Those are your options. It's not really such a big deal once you get used to dealing with it. You should only have to move back a few feet. And remember the perpendicular thing too...try keeping your cabling running perpendicular to the monitor as well.

Slackmaster 2000
 
Folks, I'm not interested in getting into a flame war - that certainly wasn't the intent of my last post (and remember that the "newbie" tag is based on # of posts only). I have no doubt whatsoever as to the expertise of the helpful people that post here. I can only speak from personal experience over the last several months, including following all the advice listed in this thread thus far as well as similar advice on several other boards unaffiliated with this one, interviewing recording engineers, etc.

Bottom line, unwanted noise can be a tricky problem, and can depend on a possibly huge combination of circumstances - hopefully in the grand scheme of things the original poster of this message can solve it quickly and cheaply!

Peace all,
ARC
:)
 
well , i didn't mean to diss you, just jokin'... well partly anyway... though your solution is the most far fetched... and as you said yourself... start with the most plausible solution... that's getting away from the monitor...

Guhlenn;)
 
achasse, don't sweat it.

When somebody comes here with a specific problem, though, it's not as helpful to get all "generic". He has a noise problem tracking guitars near his computer monitor when it is on. The problem is the monitor. He doesn't have a "noise problem in general." It's great that you've done a lot of research on this subject, but we still have to apply specific solutions to specific problems.

It may be very well that he's not explaining himself correctly, and the problem is elsewhere...but you've got to wait before pouncing! :)

Slackmaster 2000
 
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