I need some big time help here...

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what is this?
Okay, so I am pretty familiar with the ins and outs of Cubase, or I always thought I was, and now I am having the strangest problem...

When I work on my songs, I export them as broadcast wave files so I can track my progress with the comments that you can embed when you export. I record in 24bit res with a 48k sample rate and exporting always takes it down to 44.1k. So, I opened up a project this morning that I haven't messed with in a few months and it comes up with a warning that the sample rate had been changed to 44.1k. My default is 48k, so I hit the "okay" button and then go to project setup and change the sample rate back to 48k. It asks me if I want to convert my audio files back to 48, so I hit yes and then it asks me if I want to replace the files in the pool and I hit no, and it converts the files. All except the MIDI tracks, which are, for some reason, way off. Even though they were recorded at the right pitch, it's still off on the pitch and the timing. Anybody know what could be causing this issue??

HELP IS GREATLY APPRECIATED!! I use MIDI tracks on most of my songs, and if this keeps happening it's going to drive me batty...
 
I can see how the program's rate could get set different, but not the audio files(?)
When it converted the files 'back', did it look like it was actually taking time to process them?
 
What do you mean the files were recorded at the right pitch? Midi files are not audio files.
 
NL5, my interface is a Tascam FW1804 and the sample rate is set within Cubase, the default that I have set is 24/48.

Mixsit, yeah it was taking time to process each audio file in the pool. I have already gone through all of my songs and switched them back, only took a few hours....

NY, for some reason, when I switched the samplerate back to 48k, the audio files from the MIDI tracks (the audio from the VSTi) was still not switched back, so it's all out of sync and still playing back the way it would if it were still at 44.1k...

I don't know what the hell...:o
 
Is it possible you didn't convert the midi files to audio files until you were in the 44.1 mode and when cubase asked to convert the files back to 48k those files weren't chosen because they weren't 48k to begin with? I'm just guessing of course :)
 
NY, I doubt that, but I'm no MIDI genius, so I don't know how all that is processed. Always a possibility though, I'll do some research...

There are two things that I have come up with that could be in question though... I use my interface (Tascam FW1804) for everything from recording/playback within Cubase (48k) to listening to my exports and other songs from CDs, etc (44.1k). It's not likely, since this is the first time it's happened, but could that be a possibility?

AND, I just moved about a month and a half ago, had to tear all my gear down and reconnect everything at my new humble abode. I'm thinking that it might have something to do with a piece of gear somehow changing it's settings while everything was disconnected...

I dunno, I don't have a clue, I just know that it just started happening when I went back to look at my older stuff that I haven't messed with in a while. Crap...:confused:
 
When there is a samplerate mismatch Cubase will notify and if you let it will automatically correct everything and resample as necessary. My bet is that Cubase wanted to do this, but you manually did it so not all settings were transfered properly. As a result you changed your audio files, but midi had not been rendered so the midi was out of sync with the audio. I bet all the midi files were still in sync with each other though.
 
Yeah, I think that probably had something to do with it. The first of my older songs that I pulled up, I had no clue what the hell I was doing when it told me the samplerate had changed. I went to the project menu and set it back to 48k, but I selected the option for it not to convert everything in the pool. That didn't work. As you said, the MIDI was in sync with itself but completely off from the rest of the files.

I don't know why it happened, but I really want to make sure that it doesn't happen again... When you have to convert a project that has 20+ tracks (not including the multiple takes in the pool) it's a pain in the ass that seems like it takes forever.
 
It should actually be really easy. Next time don't do anythgin and close the file. Check you clocking for master and slave and check what they are set at. Then repoen the file. Try making your clock match what the project wants. If not, next time let Cubase automatically make the necessary changes:)
 
See that's the deal though, I have never had to check the clocking as the only things that need to be synced are the computer and my interface. I am not exactly sure what you mean by letting Cubase do anything automatically either... The only thing it's automatically done so far is screw up my projects by changing the samplerate to 44.1k... lol I know that the contol panel for my interface has something about syncing, I'll open it up and make sure that nothing got changed somehow during the move.
 
I thought you said you clicked the option that told it not to do anything and did things yourself. Everytime I change samplerates in my sessions cubase gives me the otpion to convert everything for me so I do not have to worry about it.
 
Well, when I originally opened up Cubase, then opened one of my projects, it went througt the whole "loading the mixer" thing, then popped up with a message (with one of those yellow triangle things with the ! in the middle) that said that the samplerate had been changed to 44.1k. It didn't give me any options to do anything but click the OK button. I had to go up to the Project menu and change the samplerate back to 48k manually. It's weird, I still have to go and check my FW's control panel to make sure the settings are still the same as they were before I pulled my setup apart for the move. lol I guess I'll keep you posted.

P.S. Xstatic, I'm doing some digging through my Cubase book to see about that controller lane issue you're having. If I find anything I'll let you know.
 
If you change it in your project settings, I beleive that does not do much. It sounds like Cubase was receiving a 44k clock form somewhere. You should probably have just had to switch your master clock to what your project was at.
 
I'm pretty sure the clock source is my interface, so I gotta see if somehow it was still set to 44.1k from Media Player or something... Or, if I may have had both programs (Cubase and Media Player) open at the same time, maybe there was some conflicting information being sent that jacked with my project.
 
pikingrin said:
Well, when I originally opened up Cubase, then opened one of my projects, it went througt the whole "loading the mixer" thing, then popped up with a message (with one of those yellow triangle things with the ! in the middle) that said that the samplerate had been changed to 44.1k. It didn't give me any options to do anything but click the OK button. I had to go up to the Project menu and change the samplerate back to 48k manually. It's weird, I still have to go and check my FW's control panel to make sure the settings are still the same as they were before I pulled my setup apart for the move. lol I guess I'll keep you posted.
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When you open a project in cubase it will look to see the sample rate of the tracks. If your default sample rate is 48k and the project it opens has tracks recorded with 44.1, then it will notify you that the sample rate has been changed to 44.1. When you change the sample rate back to 48k it does not change the sample rate of the files in the project. You need to do that separately.
 
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