I need some advice from you clever guys.

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I recently decided i need to buy mics for my acoustic (and i will after buy them to mic in guitar amps etc.) because the sound im getting using guitar rig and other VSTs just isn't making me happy.

its restricting my play to lead single string plucks as thats all that sounds decent.

and i of course cant get a good acoustic sound using vsts which is annoying because at the moment its all i play when not recording.

im mostly fingerpicking at the moment. and want a mic that is good for acoustic guitar, but also one is not expensive at all. the msh-1+2s in another topic sounded great, HOWEVER i can not find them for sale ANYWHERE in the uk.

but i can go a bit higher than that in price (i guess they are around 40 dollars)

i can spend around £50 on one or even a pair. (around $90).

i rang up dolphin music to get advice and he recommended the shure sm57, and like a doodle i got one. from amazon marketplace....apparently new.....of course it was used and broken. but im kind of relieved because i hear that mic is better for amps. im very annoyed i have to repack it and send it back.

anyway if you could recommend me something that will allow me to record acoustic nicely (im not a perfectionist, or looking for something uber and proffessional) i would be VERY grateful
 
Actually, the 57 can sound quite good when pointed at the 12th fret.

Just about any small diaphram condenser will do the trick. In that price range I would go for the Octava MC-012, but I don't know what they go for in the UK.
 
Farview said:
Actually, the 57 can sound quite good when pointed at the 12th fret.

Just about any small diaphram condenser will do the trick. In that price range I would go for the Octava MC-012, but I don't know what they go for in the UK.
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cheers.

can you recomend more because i cant seem to find the oktava either (with a c or a k ;))

i know pretty much any unidir condenser will be good , but if someone has a particaular recomendation for acoustic and especially fingerpicking, i would really appreciate it.
 
what are you using for a preamp? a 57 can work, depending on the sound you're shooting for. a condensor mic will pickup more detail in the hi's. any idea what type of sound you're want to get out of the new mic?

i would leave all the plugins alone for a while and just work with mic placement. adding a bunch of gadgets will probably only muck things up at this point.

i did a mic comparison a while back that you might want to check out. one of the mics was a shure 545sd which is pretty close to a sm57 sound wise. there's also some condensors. here's the link: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=570057
 
well i dont have a preamp. i would just plug it into my mixer.

nor do i know much about them, in fact i just posted a topic. if you want to help me out using this mic thing as a base i would really appreciate it.

https://homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?p=2155993#post2155993

and i will not be touch vsts again....(for guitar and bass) i will mic up the amps and thats it....and obviously get some effect pedlas for my electric.

and im not looking for a 'sound' per say. i just want my acoustic to soudn as close to the real thing as possible when recorded.
 
idrisguitar said:
and i will not be touch vsts again....(for guitar and bass) i will mic up the amps and thats it....and obviously get some effect pedlas for my electric.
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i just meant that you should keep it simple in the beginning. no need to abandon plugins but make sure that you're using them to accomplish the right thing. for example, if your acoustic guitar sounds dull, put on some fresh strings and experiment with mic placement before resorting to a eq plugin.
 
You can get the MSH-1/MSH-2 shipped to Europe, Just contact MSHilarius through his store(e-bay) and he will arrange the Shipping for you.....

Cheers
 
yes, i was VERY interested in thoe mics, and thanks i will check.

hopefully the shipping wont be too much and it is packed well enough.

ill get in touch with him. the demos sounded great.

may i ask.

are the msh-1s and 2s good with vocals as well? or just acoustic instruments?

whoa, checking the site. i can get the pair plus clips plus stand (ii think thats what it is) for 79 overall inc shipping....that works out at around £42....brilliant :)

cheers for the recomendations guys.
 
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idrisguitar said:
yes, i was VERY interested in thoe mics, and thanks i will check.

hopefully the shipping wont be too much and it is packed well enough.

ill get in touch with him. the demos sounded great.

may i ask.

are the msh-1s and 2s good with vocals as well? or just acoustic instruments?
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They're not what would normally be chosen for vocals, but I think they'd work well with a vocal ensemble.

And a little history. The original model, MSH-1 is discontinued. The MSH-2 was a prototype for its replacement. The current and only available model is the MSH-1A.
 
well, i have a behringher vocal mic, however it sound horrible (prob 90% my voice and the rest my mics fault)

cheers for the advice guys, i think i will def go with those mics.
 
sorry for the double post but i have another questions,

what would be the best positions for the mic for acoustic guitar? (or any faqs or guides explaining the effectiveness and advantages of certain positions.)
 
i have not yet ordered the mics. (waiting for the refund to come through on the shure)

however i have a question. one of my college mates (dont know him too well, but well enough ;)) has a berhinger b-1, and will sell it for £40.....i know thats a good deal and i know it works fine. however i wont buy it if you can tell me the msh-1a's are better for acoustic micing?
 
idrisguitar said:
i have not yet ordered the mics. (waiting for the refund to come through on the shure)

however i have a question. one of my college mates (dont know him too well, but well enough ;)) has a berhinger b-1, and will sell it for £40.....i know thats a good deal and i know it works fine. however i wont buy it if you can tell me the msh-1a's are better for acoustic micing?
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You can't get the stereo imaging with one mic. That was something new for me, and it was eye-opening. Well, ear-opening.
 
so getting the pair will be the better choice for a cleaner more full sound yes?

and while that picture and that guide helped im still a little confused about exact placement and how different position make the difference on the overall sound.

i dont have a sound treated room at all. and also the guide while it did explain it a bit for acoustic i didn;t totally understand what he was trying to explain position wise.

ill have a search but if you can explain simpler since im not that clever i would appreciate it.
 
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