I need Advice. All answers welcome.

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undergroundtoon said:
no, his first post was

"I have a 12X12 room...2x6 walls, and LOTS of insulation....and the neighbors can still hear my drums. They are over 100 feet away. Insulate as best you can within the walls, and also inside the room."

translation from the perspective of a crack head hippie(me:p).........

dude, you aint gonna make a soundproof room. that takes like mad mass....tons of it. thick ass walls and some space inbetween them. your talking mad ass money and weight.....so what i did was shuve some glass in the wall. i packed that shit in and it cut down the sound lots, but yo, the neighbors can still hear me. so do your best to do what ya can on your budget to cut down sound.
peace yo!

i didnt read him coming off like he was telling him it was the correct way to do it with an unlimited budget and manpower. just the way he did it and his personal results....:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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You....you're smarter than a hammer. For a dummy, you seemed to get what was said.....:D
 
Dogman said:
You....you're smarter than a hammer. For a dummy, you seemed to get what was said.....:D
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LOL....... NO - he didn't get what was said.......... he read way beyond what was said......

The way I read your post would suggest to me that you just didn't go far enough........

You didn't get the results - but if he stuffs enough inside and out.........

Me - I am a literalist - I read exactly what you say - and believe you to be intelligent enough to say exactly what you mean.........

If someone needs an interperter to decipher your sentences - something is wrong with the wording.

But that's ok - I won't waste any more energy on this - I am certain (well before now) that the original poster realized that he wouldn't find any value in his efforts by taking the "stuff it with insulation" approach.

My guess would be that he is gathering the requested information so we might better assist him........

So I will quietly await his return.........
 
Who let the Dog out :D

You guys are bitchin' about the same thing...that's the way I read it.

I read that doggieman was discussing treatment and the modal problems and how typical construction won't get the job done (cuz he plays like my son does...where' the tylenol?);) While Rod is doing hammer time with mass and decoupling.

Same thing, differently stated.

Ok...off with the shirts and a big hug. Ok...leave the shirts on if you want :D



Would someone PLEASE kiss my ass? I'm not feeling nearly enough love here.
 
The problem here is that some of you aren't willing to acknowledge that Rod knows what he's talking about.

WTF is the problem here?

I built a vocal booth in my basement studio. It's totally decoupled from the main house with exception of the basement floor.

My booth is single wall construction (heavily insulated).

I can run an 85 dB sound source within that booth and read a 60 dB level at 6 feet away outside of the booth even with leakage from poor door sealage.

My neighbors never hear what I'm doing.

Pay attention, Dogman.

You might learn something. ;)
 
I acknowledge it just fine. Mass (my ass and cranium) and decoupling (I wish I could get some in my shoes cuz my back is killing me)...simple physics. He's right...no questions.

At the same time, I thought Dogman made a similar point simply putting it in layman's terms...he lives in a house, equipped with some fairly dense construction and the drums still escape and detected at a significant distance. Oh gawd I can relate when my boy gets to playing that Slipknot double pedal, bowel moving, skull crushing stuff...I can't get away far enough ::(

IMHO the bitching is all about interpersonal bullshit right now and at some point quit being about this chaps original question. How to play loud kick ass drums in the garage and stop pissing off the neighbors. Both "gentlemen" suggesting that using simple 2x4 construction and fiberglass, simply won't cut it. They both said it didn't they?

Adding insulation might make things sound a bit more pleasant for the drummer but the neighbors are still gonna want to kick his ass and call the cops every night.

I'm thinking the ultimate solution is headphones, e-drums and triggered samples. No hearing loss, no pissed off neighbors and no construction costs. Save a fortune and sound like Def Leppard.

Peace...but if not, a thermonuclear response might not be out of the question. My name is punkin, hear me roar.
 
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:o85 dB...what is that?

dB is a relative measurement isn't it? Relative to what in this case? Now, if you had said 85 dBm into 600 ohms and told me that the phone on the other end didn't smoke or melt down, or had you related it to SPL at a given distance from the sound source, it might be meaningful. Umm, 85 dBm into a phone line would be pretty bad I'm guessing :rolleyes: I don't know about you but I'd be yelling "TURN THAT CRAP DOWN". Sorry, teenagers in the house, gets to ya. dB and dBm are different...I guest that's what I'm saying. Is that what I'm saying. To hell with it, I don't know.

I remember as a kid getting tickets because my car was too loud. The cops would put the meter right up to the tail pipe...They'd tell me that the neighbors weren't happy. That's not fair is it? I say put the sound meter in their bedrooms and check it from there. Better yet, put it up their... :o
never mind.

I'm "running" a 3 dB isolation set up but of course, it's in my open back sony walkman headphones and I've got the volume knob turned all the way down...the neighbors almost never complain :D\

Bottom line kids...lets stop this shall we. I'm the idiot you think I am and you're all right.


Signed,
Mensa Member :rolleyes:
 
punkin said:
IMHO the bitching is all about interpersonal bullshit right now and at some point stopped being about this chaps original question.
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Exactly!

I couldn't agree more.

When I play here in my basement studio....it's very loud.

My neighbors NEVER complain because they can't hear the noise I am making.

Noise reduction isn't exactly rocket science. ;)
 
punkin said:
I acknowledge it just fine.
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Most seem to understand what was said....but since this other dude wants to interpret things his way, and feels my thoughts were wrong, then I guess my interpretation of his idea is, to NOT insulate the walls, and do NO sound treatment within the room. Sounds kooky to me, but....:rolleyes:

Guess we all learn something somedays....
 
Dogman said:
If someone said something pertaining to the OP I might...Since your good friend didn't address the issue, his rant is mute....
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I don't know Rod on a personal level, but I do know that he addressed the OP's question quite succintly.
 
Dogman said:
this other dude wants to interpret things his way, and feels my thoughts were wrong.....
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This "other dude" as you refer to him as is a helluva fucking more knowledable than you and I combined.

Read more.......talk less.
 
60's guy said:
This "other dude" as you refer to him as is a helluva fucking more knowledable than you and I combined.

Read more.......talk less.
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And he shows this knowledge how? By not being able to interpret anything anyone else says...nice....
 
Dogman said:
I have a 12X12 room...2x6 walls, and LOTS of insulation....and the neighbors can still hear my drums. They are over 100 feet away. Insulate as best you can within the walls, and also inside the room.
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Square rooms suck and you should have advised the OP to avoid building a square room.

It seems reasonable that if you have a 12 x 12 room with loads of insulation that doesn't prevent your neighbor (100 feet away) from hearing your drums that you would offer up to the OP a more definitive suggestion as opposed to "Insulate as best you can.....".
 
Dogman said:
And he shows this knowledge how? By not being able to interpret anything anyone else says...nice....
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It's a forum, dude.

You're taking it far too personal.

Rod corrected you.....and you don't like it.

Suck it up and move on.
 
Dogman said:
Most seem to understand what was said....but since this other dude wants to interpret things his way, and feels my thoughts were wrong, then I guess my interpretation of his idea is, to NOT insulate the walls, and do NO sound treatment within the room. Sounds kooky to me, but....:rolleyes:

Guess we all learn something somedays....
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Dog,

Apparently you have a problem understanding the english language......... what I said (exactly) was this:

Well one piece of the puzzle would be to insulate the inside of the walls well - and then you will also have to put some sort of treatment in the room to make it sound OK"


Now - if you are capable of reading (and understanding) that literally - you could never arrive where you did above - however - if you don't have a real grasp of the english language - I can see how you could get all confused and end up posting what you posted.

I don't wish to confuse you anymore- so I'll just let this drop now.........

I'm still waiting for the original poster to come back with the data we need.........

Sincerely,

Rod
 
...........60's guy quote:

...............It's a forum, dude.

...............You're taking it far too personal.

...............Rod corrected you.....and you don't like it.

...............Suck it up and move on.

He didnt correct him thou.......he tried to belittle him and his contributions(and he is continuing to do it). are you rating the value of a person soley on audio knowledge? dog is a cool dude. dont treat him like he is some newb poser idiot who spouts off shit and has no clue what they are even talking about. He plays drums IN HIS HOUSE 4 hrs a day so i think he is qualified to answer his 2 cents.



Rod Gervais said:
Dog,

Apparently you have a problem understanding the english language......... what I said (exactly) was this:

Well one piece of the puzzle would be to insulate the inside of the walls well - and then you will also have to put some sort of treatment in the room to make it sound OK"


Now - if you are capable of reading (and understanding) that literally - you could never arrive where you did above - however - if you don't have a real grasp of the english language - I can see how you could get all confused and end up posting what you posted.

I don't wish to confuse you anymore- so I'll just let this drop now.........

I'm still waiting for the original poster to come back with the data we need.........

Sincerely,

Rod
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what a load of self-love b.s. is this post. its page 2 and i got news for ya......... you scared the crap out of the original poster and he aint coming back!!!!!!!
pure arrogance.

you just earned negative rep from me:mad: and i dont give negative rep.

i dont care what you have to teach, because you have a lot to learn.

your also going on my ignore list.

only 1 person has been on it (because i am pretty tolerant of people being people). the last person i put on it is now bannned(if that tells you the direction your headed in).

and i will leave you with 2 things to ponder:

1)EVERYBODY was a nobody before they became a somebody. the important thing is how you treat the people you once were.

2)at the end of the day an asshole has no friends:D:D

i planned on not posting again to see if we could get some actual "studio bulding" knowledge
................but....... you just kept coming back to add more insults........ guess what ...........no knowledge yet
 
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60's guy said:
Square rooms suck and you should have advised the OP to avoid building a square room.
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I shouldn't have done any such thing...the second posted mentioned room size, and maybe the dude only has so much space, as I do.

You are wrong.
60's guy said:
It's a forum, dude.

You're taking it far too personal.

Rod corrected you.....and you don't like it.

Suck it up and move on.
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I was not corrected. If I am to be corrected, then Rod must say, No insulation within the walls, and No room treatment on the walls.

Again, that is wrong.

And I'd bet he might know alot more than I about studio stuff.....but he needs to show it to the OP, not me.

Telling me to suck it up is rich....:)
 
60's guy said:
It's a forum, dude.

You're taking it far too personal.

Rod corrected you.....and you don't like it.

Suck it up and move on.
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60's,

thanks for your support - don't waste any more energy on this.

I had forgotten about ignoring - and have now included both of them on my list - so I won't even have to waste time weeding through their stuff to check posts.

Thanks again,

Sincerely,

Rod
 
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