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DJL
Self Banned
I bet you're right.
Rokket
Trailing Behind Again
I just checked this list. He didn't vote... You were right, Harvey.Harvey Gerst said:
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NYMorningstar
Recording Modus Operandi
Harvey, if you click on the numbers on the right in the survey you can see who voted and for what.Harvey Gerst said:
noisedude
New member
Well ... I'm still telling you that's how it is ... you're everyone's online mentor. Of course if you want hands-on ... I'll come to you, or you could visit me and bring those headphones you owe meHarvey Gerst said:
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DJL
Self Banned
noisedude said:
That's more info than we need to know... lol. 
j/k
noisedude
New member
Oops! Good point ... I meant 'practical' ... wait, that's no better
johnsuitcase
New member
It's interesting how things have changed...
10 years ago, not only was computer based recording the domain of high-end studios, but information was so much harder to come by. I remember spending long nights listening to albums (Smashing Pumpkins "Gish" comes to mind) just trying to figure out how they got that snare sound. Nowadays, I can search some forums and Google and probably come up with several ideas of the equipment used, the settings, etc.
I think the amount of information out there is tremendous, and as much as professional level gear has become readily available, I'd say the information availibility is much more important.
That said, nothing beats trying things out, testing, comparing, and just learning for yourself how things work. Sometimes mic'ing a drumset with one overhead and a mic out front of the kick actually sounds better than a full close-mic set-up.
But having the web as a resource gives newbies today a huge advantage, if they can just figure out the right questions to ask!
10 years ago, not only was computer based recording the domain of high-end studios, but information was so much harder to come by. I remember spending long nights listening to albums (Smashing Pumpkins "Gish" comes to mind) just trying to figure out how they got that snare sound. Nowadays, I can search some forums and Google and probably come up with several ideas of the equipment used, the settings, etc.
I think the amount of information out there is tremendous, and as much as professional level gear has become readily available, I'd say the information availibility is much more important.
That said, nothing beats trying things out, testing, comparing, and just learning for yourself how things work. Sometimes mic'ing a drumset with one overhead and a mic out front of the kick actually sounds better than a full close-mic set-up.
But having the web as a resource gives newbies today a huge advantage, if they can just figure out the right questions to ask!
Rokket
Trailing Behind Again
That, in a nutshell, is the key. Asking the right question. The problem is that when you first start out, if you don't know how to research, you don't even know what the right question is. But that's why we have great boards like this one. Someone can always figure out what the question is, and get it answered.johnsuitcase said:
Fletcher
New member
That would be a good bet... I don't "vote" on things like this... I think these kinds of "polls" are generally pretty dumbass, inconclusive, and often misleading. I will be happy to participate with a comment or anecdote... but for the most part, I don't participate in the polling process.
Is this a problem?
Is this a problem?
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Harvey Gerst
New member
No, except......Fletcher said:
.....it's so lonely being the only vote in that category.
(Kinda like being the last dinosaur on earth, standing around, saying, "Hey, where'd everybody go?")
cordura21
New member
Well , I never had a mentor "in situ", but I have to say that I learned a good chunk from your writings, Harvey. You make things look easy and approachable, and thus I can actually have fun by learning. I wish there was more people like you in fields like maths, economics, and other "obscure sciences". I got more out of your advice than out of most of the gear I bought. Cheers to you, man!
Rokket
Trailing Behind Again
Who was your mentor, Harvey? I've read into some of your history on the web, but I was just curious who brought you along when you started out?Harvey Gerst said:No, except......
...it's so lonely being the only vote in that category.
(Kinda like being the last dinosaur on earth, standing around, saying, "Hey, where'd everybody go?")
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brett304
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My vote!
When I first got into recording, I'd go online and all I could find were advertisements... The same specks pasted across every website, etc. You all know how it goes... Sometimes you'd find reviews for a product, usually though they are full of nonsense and nowhere near applicable (don't you love it when they don't consider the role a piece of gear is supposed to fullfill?)...
I'd been playing music for a long time, but I barely knew more than the basic components of a three piece band... I knew the capabilities that I wanted, but I had no idea what equipment I needed to get me there... Most places you look for advice are more than ready to steer you wrong... I found this website after searching through bits and pieces trying to find that one gem of knowledge that will help... I had gotten through the hardest part when I found this site, but the best thing about the site was that it pieced everything together...It let me be excited and passionate again (which is tough after getting used to late nights reading instead of late nights recording)...
You can't learn it all from reading, but if you don't understand the tools you have available to you, then they can't do much good... Like a synth that you tweak around till it sounds a little better than you found it, you need to understand the basic principals...
Enough blabbing on and on.... I think recording will help you get better at playing music, understanding the role of certain sounds in music, composing, and recording the next time you try it, and so on...
This message board has been invaluable in my journey and the people are truly great (most anyway)... Check out the search where you can find keywords in any of the posts, this will help you find answers as well as posting new threads...
When I first got into recording, I'd go online and all I could find were advertisements... The same specks pasted across every website, etc. You all know how it goes... Sometimes you'd find reviews for a product, usually though they are full of nonsense and nowhere near applicable (don't you love it when they don't consider the role a piece of gear is supposed to fullfill?)...
I'd been playing music for a long time, but I barely knew more than the basic components of a three piece band... I knew the capabilities that I wanted, but I had no idea what equipment I needed to get me there... Most places you look for advice are more than ready to steer you wrong... I found this website after searching through bits and pieces trying to find that one gem of knowledge that will help... I had gotten through the hardest part when I found this site, but the best thing about the site was that it pieced everything together...It let me be excited and passionate again (which is tough after getting used to late nights reading instead of late nights recording)...
You can't learn it all from reading, but if you don't understand the tools you have available to you, then they can't do much good... Like a synth that you tweak around till it sounds a little better than you found it, you need to understand the basic principals...
Enough blabbing on and on.... I think recording will help you get better at playing music, understanding the role of certain sounds in music, composing, and recording the next time you try it, and so on...
This message board has been invaluable in my journey and the people are truly great (most anyway)... Check out the search where you can find keywords in any of the posts, this will help you find answers as well as posting new threads...
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Harvey Gerst
New member
"Doc" Siegal at Gold Star Recording Studio, Al Schmitt at RCA, Dave Hassinger, Dick Rosmini, and a lot of others.Rokket said:
noisedude
New member
Unbelievable. Jealousy is not a good thing ... but sometimes you just can't help it!
Rokket
Trailing Behind Again
Impressive resume... Like Noisedude says, I'm jealous too...Harvey Gerst said:
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t_chance
New member
by mistakes, still daily
distortedrumble
all up in yo grill!
i dont think I'll ever stop making mistakes...when i stop making them...i stop learningt_chance said:
Rokket
Trailing Behind Again
Hell, if I stop making mistakes, I might make good music.....distortedrumble said:
We CAN'T have that!
At least not right now....
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darnold
New member
I voted for hands on experience. I got most of my starts from the web and forum thanks to everyone here. Also all the technical facts, science, and detailed information came from here. Also much advice on the gear.
But really i think its an even match between the web and hands on with me. Its just i think where the real ear development and skills came from hands on experience.
Danny
But really i think its an even match between the web and hands on with me. Its just i think where the real ear development and skills came from hands on experience.
Danny
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