I found these mp3s of the Marshall V67G

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I just remembered the name of the group that was in here when the MXL-V67G arrived last year. It was "The Touch". They have mp3s of some of the songs we did on their website. Here's 3 with some notes on the recordings:



This is the over the shoulder mic technique I've talked about for acoustic guitars. The mic is an Audix TR-40, almost identical to the Behringer ECM8000. Bass went direct to the board. Drums were ATM25 on kick, Beyer M201 on snare, Sennheiser 504Ds on toms, 421 on floor tom, and Audix TR-40s for over heads. All vocals were thru the V67G without any eq, just some compression using the RNC and the board preamp.



Same basic setup, without the acoustic guitar. This one has the voice a little more out in front so you can hear it a little better. Again, no eq and just some compression on the vocal. Electric guitar was thru a small Charvel 15 watt amp that I designed in the late 80s (I found this one last year in a pawn shop for $20), miced with a Shure SM-57.



Lee has one of the best voices around this area, and he's one of the few people that could have pulled this off. This was our fun song. I added some delay and a little more reverb to his voice for this one. I used the same basic mics for all the instruments, but did some drastic eqing to get a little closer to the sound I wanted on everything.

I don't know how the quality of the mp3s will come thru on your systems. This computer has a pretty crappy sound card so I can't tell how good or bad these mp3 are, but hopefully they'll give you some idea about the mics.
 
That singer has a freaking awesome voice.

I liked the overall feel of the tracks. Very pro.

Do you mind sharing what reverbs you used on the tracks?
 
Now with the accoustic guitar, is that just one audix, or is there another one pointed at the 12th fret as well? You can definitely hear some nice fret sound on that.

I think my chest is still sore from that "thump-thump"-in coming from the atm25. :) Reminds me of my head-bangin' days. Good bass. Kinda' heavy-funky, and very tight with the drummer.

"Come together" . . . (guitar: ) near near near-near near . . . near. (drum: ) thumpedy-thumpedy-thumpedy-thumpedy THUMP THUMP! Beavis: "This RULES! RULES! RULES!" Butthead: "Shutup, Beavis" (slap!).
 
Ugh, shame about the 48K mp3's. Luckily the vocals retained enough quality to show off your V67 technique, but the backing tracks sounded like they're coming in from a warehouse across the street.

I can never understand why a band will put up a website to showcase their material, and then skimp on the audio quality which should be most important. I went on their site looking for more stuff and it's all 48 or 96K.

Slackmaster 2000
 
chessrock, it's just a single Audix, about even with the bridge.

Slack, yes, it sounds like they did some eqing of their own since it left here in finished form. I can't be sure on my system. I wish I could make decent mp3s here, but they've never turned out right when I try to put them on the net.

I'll cross check my calendar and see if I can find some of the other groups that used the V67 for vocals.

Oh well, at least I tried. :(
 
Man now I feel all guilty :( It's not your fault, they just sound exactly like low quality MP3's sound. 128Kbps is usually the listenable minium.

However, the vocals fared best (which is common) and they do sound really damn good.

I thank you kindly for posting ANY samples of real studio work, especially when you're using some of the same "cheaper" gear you've recommended. I'm very happy with my V67, but I'm not happy that I paid $210 for it when Mars is selling them out at $99. Could you please try a little harder to predict the future next time? :)

Slackmaster 2000
 
Harvey Gerst said:
I'll cross check my calendar and see if I can find some of the other groups that used the V67 for vocals.:(
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Just curious: I had posted another thread wondering if anyone's had success with the 67 on anything besides vocals (?) Reason I'm asking is because at the current price, I might be able to justify getting maybe two or three of these things if I thought they'd be any good as a drum overhead, or direct micing a guitar amp, for instance. Got some pretty good answers and suggestions. Just curious if you've ever tried anything else with it.
 
Slack, I paid more than that for my V67Gs, too. But even a year ago, they were still a great value. I'll see if I can find some other mp3s that show off the V67G.

Chess, I don't normally use large diaphragm condensers on a lot of other instruments. It can be done, often with great results, but I just don't do it very much. I will use a large diaphragm condenser as a room mic sometimes, or as a distant mic for guitar cabinets, but not very often.
 
well I guess telling the reverb you used would be giving away a trade secret. I probably couldnot afford it anyhow.

Now, to find your gear list on your webpage... :D
 
DANG!

I've never seen such an extensive gear list. Blame me for only looking at home-reccers setups.


Now that I know what reverbs you have, I'm guessing that you used the M2000 and one of the roland units on these tracks.
 
Yeah Harvey, I'm not upset at the deal I got either. I mean sometimes you just have to jump on a good price. Maybe it'll decrease in the future, maybe it'll increase. Take the 603, I'm now seeing it for $79, but when I got mine I only paid $50...I wish I had bought two of them at that time because I'm looking for another.

I almost feel stupid for not buying a couple more V67's at the Mars price. It sure is a decent microphone.

Slackmaster 2000
 
Cyan, at the time those tracks were cut, I only had a Boss SE-50, set for patch #22 (Multi-shout Vocal), a Lexicon Alex (Patch 6) for snare, and a Lexicon PCM-41 (delay with multiple repeats). That's all I used. I don't think I even used the PCM-41 on those cuts.
 
Slackmaster2K said:
Ugh, shame about the 48K mp3's....

....I went on their site looking for more stuff and it's all 48 or 96K.
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Most people still connect through dial-up ;) therefore a mp3 recorded at 48kb/s takes approx 2 seconds to download for each second of music. A 96kb/s mp3 takes 4 seconds per second of audio and a 192kb/s takes 8 seconds per second of audio.

I personally am not willing to wait 8 minutes for a one minute clip of a band I've never heard of.
 
Robb,

In this case, it's not about a band you may or may not have heard about. I've done a lot of posting suggestions on this board in the last year or so, but not too many people here have heard some of the mics I've recommended.

These were some mp3s I found of bands (on their websites) that happen to use one particular microphone for the vocals. Every time I've tried to post an mp3 here, it's turned out snap, crackly, and poppy, either because of my slow connection, or my poor net computer.

But feel free NOT to download anything I try to link to. I'm on a bad dial-up too, so I rarely try to download stuff.
 
Harvey Gerst said:
Robb,

Every time I've tried to post an mp3 here, it's turned out snap, crackly, and poppy, either because of my slow connection, or my poor net computer.
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Harvey,
did you ever try "scmpx" to encode the wav. files? I had zero problems with this encoder, even on my old 233 pentium. It's freeware, you can find it here:
http://www.70.nu/ch3/index_e.html

I can also send it to you as an email attachment (only 350kb). It is a very "clean" install, it doesn't write any garbage in your registry nor does it need anyting apart the .exe. Actually, you can even start it directly from the zip file!
 
That link doesn't seem to want to open on my computer.
 
Harvey Gerst said:
That link doesn't seem to want to open on my computer.
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same here, maybe the site is down.

Do you want me to send it to your studios email address? I will be pleased to do so.
Harald
 
The "proper" thing to do is to provide both high and low quality links to your media. Just because a person is on dialup doesn't mean that they don't have ears. What if they *like* the low quality samples they hear and want to hear more? That's my only point.

I'm not offering this advice to be argumentative, and once again these links were created by the band, not Harvey. I'd simply like anybody who's going to put up a website dedicated to their music to take this into consideration.

Sorry for ruining your thread Harvey.

(I agree that SCMPX is a usable encoder and can be found at:
http://www.din.or.jp/~ch3/index_e.html )

Slackmaster 2000
 
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