I finally bought the BlueSky system one!

[ambi]

Does that mean that you think the blue sky's would be worse for mixing because they have a sub? They were designed to work with a sub so i'm thinking it wouldn't be quite the same as your monitors plus your massive fucking sub.

And you think the mackies would be better for mixing? Granted they wouldn't have as much bass, but they would be better for mixing?

I know more bass isn't going to help you mix one but, but more accurate bass will, and having bass present instead of not being present will make a difference i think. But that isn't to say that you need a sub to have bass present...

 

[iwanarock]

Kryogh, Ambi & Gunther thanks much for your response, I do appreciate your input.

Kryogh ...Keep us posted as you start mixing stuff, I know I would be interested in what you think. I was all set to buy the 824's until I heard the system one, then a debate and research like this has followed, I intend to go give them both another trail run soon to try and make a decision. I am glad to see it just wasn't my ears that were so impressed. Thanks.

Ambi I understand what you are saying, That's the reason I asked, I realized nothing was being added to the mix, but I have never mixed with a SUB, and so I wasn't sure how good or bad it might affect how the mix translates. You do make some good points. Thats the kind of feedback I was looking for. I guess the dilemma I was on was if the sub would also fool you on how the bass comes thru on the tracks and be missing for example in the Car. But I guess I could turn the Sub off as well as a test during mixing. I just haven't mixed with one so I wasn't sure. By the way my music is pretty much Rock, and I agree while looking cool is nice, sounding great is the only thing that matters to me.

 

[iwanarock]

Let me update one thing I just said in the last post. Sounding and translating great is the only thing that matters to me.

 

[ambi]

Well the sub is adjustable, and if it's set to high, you might mix with too little bass, or if it's too low, you might mix with too much. And sub placement is really picky, i believe if it is placed in a corner the efficiency of the sub goes up about 12DBA. I have a pair of klipsch 4.1 multimedia speakers which are quite nice for games and music and what not, i've outgrown them (and mixing on them sucks, hence my disire for high end monitors), but even with these i notice how picky sub placement is. If i move the sub from under my desk and from the corner, the bass levels drop right off. But idealy a sub should be designed so that you can't tell that the bass frequencies are coming from another location than the satalites. It should just sound like one big nice, complete stereo field. But as Alfalfa pointed out, not all 2.1 systems are perfect, and the crossovers are not always perfect. And he brought up the excellent point that having everything in one unit like with the mackies would eliminate this potential problem. BUT, the blue sky's may not have that problem at all, and from all of the singing praise they seem to get i would assume not. But hey this is why i'm posting i'm looking for answers too! Don't take my responses here to be the definative answers to any of your quetions. I'm looking for information just like you, and i hope that people can correct me so i can learn.

So that is one factor, space, and having room to move the sucker around. I think that with the volume control on the sub it would be fairly easy to compensate for the sub being in a not so ideal position, but knowing what it should sound like could take some time.

But it's the same thing with the mackies i suppose, and knowing when to use the dip switches on them as well. If you back them right up against a wall the bass will become much more powerful as well.

 

[Kryogh]

about the HR824

A point that was important for me about new speakers. How good they are sheilded. The HR824 arent well shielded. you cant put them around computer monitors. I use 3 monitors, (two 19" and one 17") these are taking lot of place so the HR824 would have been too much far from me. Looks like you have to leave 2 feet between the HR824 and your PC monitor(s). So, to "respect" the famous equilateral triangle, I would have to be about 4-6 feet from my PC monitors. And this included more money cuz I would have to buy some binocular!

damn..I dunno I you understand, but I didn't find other words (once again, sorry, bad english)

 

[IanW-UK]

I have my screen about 10mm from my hr824s with no problems at all

 

[ambi]

I didn't realize that the Mackies weren't shielded.

Is this true?

Mackies claims they have "Full magnetic shielding".

 

[bleyrad]

I believe Yorkville claims the same thing about the YSM1's... and I believed them, because I never had any problem with them around CRT's.

But when I opened them up to troubleshoot an intermittent tweeter, it turns out they have NO magnetic shielding whatsoever. I guess the magnets are just not very powerful, and the distance between them and any nearby CRT is too far to cause any problems.

 

[Kryogh]

Ian

oh really?? hmm..strange. I never had HR824 home so cant confirm about this. I knom Mackie are supposed to be "full magnetic shilded" but I read many times that they are not. They ARE sheilded speakers, but apparently not that much...

Well, maybe I'm wrong! If someone can check this out for real, it could clarify this point.

In fact, I think I'm gonne check this out by myself, I have to go the the local store in a few days

 

[ambi]

That's quite possibly true. One user who posted before on this thread mentioned that he had them something like 10mm from his monitor and it was fine. But who really knows. Yea see if you can test it for yourself. I'm gonna see if i can go down and listen to some monitors next week. I found a local shop that has access to blue sky stuff, i don't know if they have any, i still have to call.

 

[Kryogh]

LCDs or CRTs?

are there any speakers/screens interferences with LCDs? less or more than CRTs?

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other topic...

I learned yesterday that the Bluesky distributor is about 15 minutes from my home

...could be interesting hehe

 

[BlueSky]

Re: LCDs or CRTs?

are there any speakers/screens interferences with LCDs? less or more than CRTs?

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other topic...

I learned yesterday that the Bluesky distributor is about 15 minutes from my home

...could be interesting hehe

All Blue Sky monitors and subs are shielded. Also, I am almost positive that Mackie's monitors are shielded as well and so are all THX pm3 approved speakers (part of the specification). Our method uses both a bucking magnet and a shielding-can to achieve the maximum shielding possible. As with all methods of magnetic shielding, you can't shield the front of the drivers in the speaker cabinet. Because of this and because some TVs / computer monitors are "more sensitive" than others, they may show some affects, even when a speaker is shielded. However, most people will not have any problems.

With regard to LCD's, they are not in any great way affected by magnetic fields.

Hope that helps.