Humidity (IMPORTANT; MUST READ)

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VeganZombie said:
1-should i seal off the window to the room with plastic (i know this will cut down on heating costs, but would it increase the humidity in the room/apartment)?

Good god no! There is no reason to do anything that will negativly effect your standard of living. Just humidify the guitars in the cases.


VeganZombie said:
2-the soap dish/sponge thing....is it as simple as taking a travel soap dish, putting some holes in it, adding a moistened sponge, and putting it in the case? and wouldn't the added moisture affect the electronics and hardware on the guitars?

Yes, it really is that simple. You have to keep the sponges damp, but that is all there is to it. Guitar electronics are not all that sensitive to moisture. Don't worry about it. Besides, it is a lot easier to fix electronics than to fix the wood.


VeganZombie said:
3-should i continue to use the planet waves humidifier thing for my acoustic?

Yes, but only until you get a Lifeguard. And use a soap dish as well.


VeganZombie said:
4-what should i do about my amp head/rack case, my 4x12 (this is the only vintage thing i own, and i'd just assume lose a testicle than have anything happen to it), and my mics, pedal board, recording interface.....?
Your amp and cab will be fine, and most electronics prefer a dryer enviroment anyway.

Just humidify your guitars in the case, and stay on top of keeping the humidifiers damp, and you will be fine.


Light

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Light said:
Yes, but only until you get a Lifeguard. And use a soap dish as well.

thanks for all the advice. but what's a lifeguard?
 
VeganZombie said:
w/ all the different opinions, i don't know what i should do. i have 3 electrics (2 solid bodies and a semi-hollow body) and one acoustic. the electrics all have hardshell cases, and i have a gig bag for the acoustic.


all in all, i just wanna do what's best for my gear.

thanks, in advance, for any ideas, advice, comments....

curtiss

See my above post with attached pics of my guitar cabinet.

For $150 (the price of a high quality hardshell case) you can take care of your humidity concerns and protect your guitars all in one shot.
 
VeganZombie said:
thanks for all the advice. but what's a lifeguard?


Read the first post in this thread.


Light

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I'm going to give this a go as the maple neck on my older stingray bass is being affected by moisture loss I think...I have a question, though: my electric cases are essentially "molded" to the shape of the bass' body (headstock area is open though)...will putting a soapdish humidifier still allow the moisture to go through the case enough to matter?
 
Sabu said:
I'm going to give this a go as the maple neck on my older stingray bass is being affected by moisture loss I think...I have a question, though: my electric cases are essentially "molded" to the shape of the bass' body (headstock area is open though)...will putting a soapdish humidifier still allow the moisture to go through the case enough to matter?


Yeah, it will be fine.



Light

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SHEPPARDB. said:
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I just bought a room humidifier where my electric guitars are, but keep the acoustic in the case with the Planet Waves humidifier. Will this be ok for my electrics, or do you still recommend me to put them in the cases?

Thanks.
 
Light said:
Good god no! There is no reason to do anything that will negativly effect your standard of living. Just humidify the guitars in the cases.

so i should move my guitars out of my cigar/guitar humidor room? :-) doesn't everyone have a guitar/cigar humidor room? right next to the wine vault... :-)

thanks good info!
 
This thread merits constant bumping - important stuff

Thanks, Light - Humidity control (especially here in the Northeast) is critical.

There were some posts about too much humidity and Taylor's approach. This might clear things up a bit.

Here in Vermont, we have wide variations in temperature from day to day. The temp can fluctuate from 20 degrees F. above zero to 20 below overnight. When it gets really cold, or pretty cold for a long time, the relative humidity drops and drops - sometimes to 5% or less.

When wood takes on moisture, it tends to swell a bit. You can find the belly of an acoustic guitar might rise a little and your action might feel a bit high. But it rarely causes damage.

Dryness is a whole different deal. When wood gives off moisture (as it will this time of year in the Northeast) the wood cells shrink. The trouble is that the wood, say, in the top, is glued to the sides, glued to the bridge plate, glued to the braces, glued to the pickguard... and the glue will not yield its place. At some point the stress from shrinking will cause the wood to snap, and you have a crack.

You can begin to see damage, for instance, when fret ends start moving neck binding around - the steel shrinks at a different rate than the neck wood. My Taylor was refretted and the frets always cut my left hand in February, even with some humidification. That's reversable, as the frets settle down with more moisture. But it's a warning.

With a little too much moisture the guitar might not perform to its capability. But let it get too dry and it will break into pieces. The best target Relative Humidity is around 40 % - 50 %. Try not to let it get below 30%. And without humidification, a steel string guitar under tension is very likely to develop a top split when the RH drops to 10% or below.


Tree
 
I keep our house hvac system humidifier set to 45% and (because we're in north NJ where its reasonably moist) the house stays around 50% RH pretty much year round. all my guitars are kept in stable warm closet in hard cases, except my strat because I tend to pick it up and play it frequently, but with the house constantly humidified I don't find any issues... I periodically (about every 3 months) open all the cases and inspect them if I haven't played with them to check their condition, neck, strings, etc. so far, none have suffered any ill effects from humidity or storage...

lot's of good info here...
 
I've had an Ibanez Performance PF10 since 1990 and have never taken any precautions with humidity. I've left it in cars in direct sunlight for days and it's never had a case. It was a cheap guitar in its day and it was made in Korea. But a local luthier here says that back then you could still get a well made cheap guitar. He says the pf10 wasn't too bad.

Anyway, it still sounds quite nice when I whack on a new set of strings. I wonder how much better it would sound had I humidified it correctly all this time.
 
Today's the first day of my soapdish humidifying. Is there an approximate timeframe where I'd know they are working, or is it more of a constant preventative thing during the winter? Also, how many holes should I put in the soapdishes? I've got 3 in now, about 2mm wide. Is this enough for the wet sponge to evaporate into the case?
 
Sabu said:
Today's the first day of my soapdish humidifying. Is there an approximate timeframe where I'd know they are working, or is it more of a constant preventative thing during the winter? Also, how many holes should I put in the soapdishes? I've got 3 in now, about 2mm wide. Is this enough for the wet sponge to evaporate into the case?


Start using them when you turn on the heat in the fall, and stop when you turn it off in the spring. You could even put a note on your furnace to remind yourself.

That should be plenty of holes. You just need there to be air transfer.


Light

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M.K. Gandhi
 
Is there anything to watch out for with sponges? Do the anti-bacterial or anti-odor sponges have any chemicals in them that shouldn't be around guitars?
 
My electric was in the New Orleans flood from hurricane Katrina. Is that humid enough?
 
dirtythermos said:
Is there anything to watch out for with sponges? Do the anti-bacterial or anti-odor sponges have any chemicals in them that shouldn't be around guitars?



Nope, no worries. I mean, if it startes to smell bad, change it, but I've got humidifiers in the shop which we've been using for 20 years or so, and it's never been a problem. Remember, all you are putting in there is water, and durring the summer they dry out completely, so it would be difficult for much to grow in them.


Light

"Cowards can never be moral."
M.K. Gandhi
 
K so I put the soapdish humidifiers into my electric bass cases yesterday morning and when I went to practise bass this evening, it was about +3 cent sharp. My basses have solid tuners and don't usually fluctuate much. Does this mean the humidifier is working and making the wood in the neck expand, causing it to go slightly sharp?
 
Sabu said:
Does this mean the humidifier is working and making the wood in the neck expand, causing it to go slightly sharp?



Probably, yes. Give it a week or so to settle into the new situation.


Light

"Cowards can never be moral."
M.K. Gandhi
 
Light said:
Probably, yes. Give it a week or so to settle into the new situation.


Light

"Cowards can never be moral."
M.K. Gandhi

Thanks for the help!
 
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