A Reel Person
It's Too Funky in Here!!!
I like all those big words! Wow!
How to turn your old stereo speakers into the best sounding monitors you ever heard!
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Boray:
You can keep playing mental chess with Zeke all you want but your wasting your time.
Here's my advice: If you love the sound of your mixes with your eq'd speakers - great! But they have to translate well to other systems including studio monitors and typical hi fi systems that someone would have in the home.
This is where you're going to really hear a difference - bring your favorite mix on a dat or cd and play if for a mastering engineer at his facility. The eq issues will then hit you. I guarantee you'll hear things in that room that you didn't hear in yours. Find an engineer that only does this for a living - not a friend who has a TC Finalizer.
This is why I think you'll be happier getting a pair of monitors that will translate well on everything else. When you start eq'ing hi fi speakers, you're already behind the 8 ball. I think if you used a pair of monitors and got used to them - you would understand the difference.
When I built my home studio I bought the same monitors that I was accustomed to in the large commercial facilities. It was important that the sound was the same to speed things along.
I started with NS10's. They have a peaky midrange and are bass shy but I was used to them because every 24 track facility at the time used them for nearfields. I have additional monitors now to check the mixes - and my mixes translate well right to the mastering house.
If you want suggestions on what to buy - let me know.
You can keep playing mental chess with Zeke all you want but your wasting your time.
Here's my advice: If you love the sound of your mixes with your eq'd speakers - great! But they have to translate well to other systems including studio monitors and typical hi fi systems that someone would have in the home.
This is where you're going to really hear a difference - bring your favorite mix on a dat or cd and play if for a mastering engineer at his facility. The eq issues will then hit you. I guarantee you'll hear things in that room that you didn't hear in yours. Find an engineer that only does this for a living - not a friend who has a TC Finalizer.
This is why I think you'll be happier getting a pair of monitors that will translate well on everything else. When you start eq'ing hi fi speakers, you're already behind the 8 ball. I think if you used a pair of monitors and got used to them - you would understand the difference.
When I built my home studio I bought the same monitors that I was accustomed to in the large commercial facilities. It was important that the sound was the same to speed things along.
I started with NS10's. They have a peaky midrange and are bass shy but I was used to them because every 24 track facility at the time used them for nearfields. I have additional monitors now to check the mixes - and my mixes translate well right to the mastering house.
If you want suggestions on what to buy - let me know.
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To a Reel Person:
Great, so you're hooked on phonics! Do you know anything about recording?
Great, so you're hooked on phonics! Do you know anything about recording?
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Boray
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Thanks, Barefoot and BG!
/Anders
/Anders
A Reel Person
It's Too Funky in Here!!!
You've just gotta take a shot at everyone on this board,...
don't you, Mr. Namedropper? You can insult everyone and flail around all you want, and I'm not impressed. I could not care less. You'd be the last person I'd ask for advice. That's putting it nicely.
Go take a Midol.
don't you, Mr. Namedropper? You can insult everyone and flail around all you want, and I'm not impressed. I could not care less. You'd be the last person I'd ask for advice. That's putting it nicely.
Go take a Midol.
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Boray
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Wil Davis said:
In theory, yes... But you can still place them in a way that makes them sound not like they should. For example place one in a corner, or angle one of them 90 degrees. (I know someone who actually did that
).... And as you say, the whole idea of near-field monitors is to try to get them to be as independent of the room acoustics as possible... Yes... to try... You can't accomplish this entirely. But better than with stereo speakers of course. /Anders
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Boray
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Re: You've just gotta take a shot at everyone on this board,...
Mr. Namedropper? Who is that?
/Anders
A Reel Person said:don't you, Mr. Namedropper? You can insult everyone and flail around all you want, and I'm not impressed. I could not care less. You'd be the last person I'd ask for advice. That's putting it nicely.
Go take a Midol.
Mr. Namedropper? Who is that?
/Anders
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Zeke:
So you mix on NS10's - Great!
The problem is that you lack recording skills and I'm sure your ears are made of tin. What does it really matter what you mix on?
You're incredibly stupid and stupid people like yourself are always the last to know.
So you mix on NS10's - Great!
The problem is that you lack recording skills and I'm sure your ears are made of tin. What does it really matter what you mix on?
You're incredibly stupid and stupid people like yourself are always the last to know.
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Boray
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Reel Person, oh, you mean BG? Sorry.....
/Anders
/Anders
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Okay Reel Person:
Ask your wife if I can have one of hers.
Understand one thing - you're just another shithead idiot who knows nothing about recording.
I've been there and done that and my track record can back up my mouth. Put your jealousy to the side and you might learn something here.
Ask your wife if I can have one of hers.
Understand one thing - you're just another shithead idiot who knows nothing about recording.
I've been there and done that and my track record can back up my mouth. Put your jealousy to the side and you might learn something here.
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Boray:
I wanted to ask you a few things - how far are your speakers from the wall?. Do you use any kind of Aurelex room treatments?
What are the dimensions of the room in which you mix? Is it a parallel wall type of bedroom setup? Are your speakers set like an equalateral triangle in relation to your listening position?
I wanted to ask you a few things - how far are your speakers from the wall?. Do you use any kind of Aurelex room treatments?
What are the dimensions of the room in which you mix? Is it a parallel wall type of bedroom setup? Are your speakers set like an equalateral triangle in relation to your listening position?
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Boray
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So, have we broken the record yet? 151 replies and rising. Monty has deleted his posts too, so it should be some more...
Just for the record, these are the ones that he deleted from this and from my jogwheel fix thread:
"Shut up."
"Screw you. "
"Die!"
"Screw you dickwards and return to your planet"...
So, are we up in 155 now...? Well, I just put this here to justify for why I got a bit upset in the beginning of the thread. Insults posted and then deleted again. A nice way to make someone feel welcome!
/Anders
Just for the record, these are the ones that he deleted from this and from my jogwheel fix thread:
"Shut up."
"Screw you. "
"Die!"
"Screw you dickwards and return to your planet"...
So, are we up in 155 now...? Well, I just put this here to justify for why I got a bit upset in the beginning of the thread. Insults posted and then deleted again. A nice way to make someone feel welcome!
/Anders
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Boray
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BG,
>I wanted to ask you a few things - how far are your
>speakers from the wall?.
About 30cm on one and a bit less on the other.
>Do you use any kind of Aurelex
>room treatments?
What is that? I don't recognize the word "aurelex".
(Forgive a Swede trying to write English). But if it means acoustics changing treatments, look below....
>What are the dimensions of the room in which you mix?
I estimate it to be about 4x4 meters or 4x5 meters depending on if you count one side with some wardrobes. One of them has no door and they don't go all the way. The hight is only 2 meters (it's a room in the basement).
>Is it a parallel wall type of bedroom setup?
The speakers are bit angled from the wall (but still on the same line with eachother, not entirely parallell to the wall. That's why I said one of them was a bit more far from the wall.) There is a carpent covering all of the floor. The ceeling is some porouse paper type material. There is a lot of sound absorbing stuff around the room (even right next to the speakers) and on all walls, open bookshelves with varyed sized books and papers, a lot of other stuff like a big organ and a drumset and other crap lying around. (An exersise bike for example), a table with a tablecloth hanging long down over the edges and filled with stuff. The rather small windows are covered with curtains. One corner has a "corner-cupboard, like cutting of the edge of that corner.
>Are your speakers set like an equalateral triangle in relation to
>your listening position?
Yes, it's exactly that way. I assumed that it should be this way when I decided where to put them. So is this right? They are not centered on the wall, but a bit more to one side of it (leaving space for the usually opened door on one side).
/Anders
>I wanted to ask you a few things - how far are your
>speakers from the wall?.
About 30cm on one and a bit less on the other.
>Do you use any kind of Aurelex
>room treatments?
What is that? I don't recognize the word "aurelex".
(Forgive a Swede trying to write English). But if it means acoustics changing treatments, look below....
>What are the dimensions of the room in which you mix?
I estimate it to be about 4x4 meters or 4x5 meters depending on if you count one side with some wardrobes. One of them has no door and they don't go all the way. The hight is only 2 meters (it's a room in the basement).
>Is it a parallel wall type of bedroom setup?
The speakers are bit angled from the wall (but still on the same line with eachother, not entirely parallell to the wall. That's why I said one of them was a bit more far from the wall.) There is a carpent covering all of the floor. The ceeling is some porouse paper type material. There is a lot of sound absorbing stuff around the room (even right next to the speakers) and on all walls, open bookshelves with varyed sized books and papers, a lot of other stuff like a big organ and a drumset and other crap lying around. (An exersise bike for example), a table with a tablecloth hanging long down over the edges and filled with stuff. The rather small windows are covered with curtains. One corner has a "corner-cupboard, like cutting of the edge of that corner.
>Are your speakers set like an equalateral triangle in relation to
>your listening position?
Yes, it's exactly that way. I assumed that it should be this way when I decided where to put them. So is this right? They are not centered on the wall, but a bit more to one side of it (leaving space for the usually opened door on one side).
/Anders
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Boray
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BG, .....and the speakers are at about the same hight as my ears are....
/Anders
/Anders
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Boray
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BG, here are pictures from that room:
http://home.worldonline.se/boray/studio/
You can see about 2/3'th of the left speaker on top of the organ. I face the synthesizer/computer/organ/guitar wall when listening and not the VS...
/Anders
http://home.worldonline.se/boray/studio/
You can see about 2/3'th of the left speaker on top of the organ. I face the synthesizer/computer/organ/guitar wall when listening and not the VS...
/Anders
MrZekeMan
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Now, was that really so hard?*BG said:
MrZekeMan
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I'm devastated by your low opinion of me, and by your Psychic ability to discern my skill level as concerns recording. I'll try to go on though. I'm a brave little trooper that way.*BG said:
Be that the case, then why did it take you 6 pages to finally concur with the same opinion everyone on this thread has been giving Boray for the last 150 posts?
If that's the case, then the last to know are always the left over idiots.
As far as the monitor issue goes, Boray is obviously the last to know. Are you calling him an incredibly stupid idiot? Is he a more incredibly stupid idiot than I am, since I'm in the know and he still isn't?
Whether you are the big-shot recording guru you claim to be or not (I have my doubts), your acumen here in this thread hasn't impressed me.
I will address some issues with your character in my next post.
MrZekeMan
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This quote comes from the same person who almost popped a vein, and was bawling and squalling and slinging snot all over the board because he perceived that Anders was being treated RUDELY.*BG said:
I think he needs to go get out his dictionary and look up the word hypocrite. He has some real issues with his character.
MrZekeMan
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Not even close, go look at Harvey's mic thread. It not only blows the thread-count of this thread away. But educates everyone who reads it, instead of just one person.Boray said:
MrZekeMan
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Anders,Boray said:
Aurelex is the brand name of an acoustic foam treatment, that is sold here in the states.
Taylor