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Will25
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Any criticism welcome! Thanks
Any criticism welcome! Thanks
Steenamaroo
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In my opinion the voice is fine.
It's certainly your voice which I think is a great thing. Some will love, some will hate, but that's the way to be.
In terms of the recorded sound, there's room for improvement for sure. What kind of mic/interface are you using?
The voice sounds a little weak or distant but it's in the recording technique and tools, not the actual singing.
Perosonally I'd worry a lot more about timing. It seems to be much more of an issue with the first song. The second is Ok timing wise which makes me think you've got good timing and maybe there's a good reason for the first one being duff.
Did you record the drums as an overdub? That would do it.
I know it's not what you asked, but I hope that's useful.
EDIT. a harmony up a third would go down a treat on the "long long way to tennessee" lines in my opinion.
It's certainly your voice which I think is a great thing. Some will love, some will hate, but that's the way to be.
In terms of the recorded sound, there's room for improvement for sure. What kind of mic/interface are you using?
The voice sounds a little weak or distant but it's in the recording technique and tools, not the actual singing.
Perosonally I'd worry a lot more about timing. It seems to be much more of an issue with the first song. The second is Ok timing wise which makes me think you've got good timing and maybe there's a good reason for the first one being duff.
Did you record the drums as an overdub? That would do it.
I know it's not what you asked, but I hope that's useful.
EDIT. a harmony up a third would go down a treat on the "long long way to tennessee" lines in my opinion.
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Will25
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Yes - and I'm no drummer! I didn't use a click either. It's a reallly rough demo and I've only got this cheap peavey mic for recording...it was like £20 so it's not great. perhaps I should have said 'singing technique' instead of voice....thanks for the comments!
Good idea! I'll try it when I re-record it (which will be soon...)
Steenamaroo
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Cool. I think you did well for what you have.
Using a click is a subject for great debate, but i think whether you use one or not, it's good practice to get the drums down first.
It just 'works' so much better. I have done drums last before, but they were midi drums that were 'written' to a recording.
I think the drums can be the hardest thing to work at, so if you do them first you're tied to nothing. You can edit, adjust, or re record parts quite freely.
For the voice, I'd imagine a mic upgrade wouldn't go a miss, but the room in which you record plays a huge part too.
If you sing in a bathroom, it'll sound like a bathroom, you know?
You sound like you might be quite a full on singer sometimes, so a big dynamic like re20 or sm7b could work well. Matching it with a nice preamp is going to be key though.
Are you recording into the pc? If so, do you currently have an interface other than onboard sound, and what is it?
Using a click is a subject for great debate, but i think whether you use one or not, it's good practice to get the drums down first.
It just 'works' so much better. I have done drums last before, but they were midi drums that were 'written' to a recording.
I think the drums can be the hardest thing to work at, so if you do them first you're tied to nothing. You can edit, adjust, or re record parts quite freely.
For the voice, I'd imagine a mic upgrade wouldn't go a miss, but the room in which you record plays a huge part too.
If you sing in a bathroom, it'll sound like a bathroom, you know?
You sound like you might be quite a full on singer sometimes, so a big dynamic like re20 or sm7b could work well. Matching it with a nice preamp is going to be key though.
Are you recording into the pc? If so, do you currently have an interface other than onboard sound, and what is it?
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Will25
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Well I'm not a fan of clicks but laying the drums down first does make sense...so I'd record a guide acoustic, then drums, then build everything on top of that?
A mic upgrade is much needed I think, although those models are probably outside of my budget... As I'm recording in my bedroom, I don't think the room is ideal either. I've heard the kitchen is a bit better for acoustics!
I'm actually recording into a Tascam 488 mk2 for the Tennessee one and a Tascam DP01 for Caroline so I'm limited in that sense. I'm looking into preamps...never used them before!
A mic upgrade is much needed I think, although those models are probably outside of my budget... As I'm recording in my bedroom, I don't think the room is ideal either. I've heard the kitchen is a bit better for acoustics!
I'm actually recording into a Tascam 488 mk2 for the Tennessee one and a Tascam DP01 for Caroline so I'm limited in that sense. I'm looking into preamps...never used them before!
Steenamaroo
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Yeh you can do that. A lot of drummers need or want a guide to follow so that's not a bad plan.
I'd recommend using it as a structure guide but not worrying too much about sound perfect against it.
The idea is to use use the guide to get the drums down then you should be able to delete it and re record the guitars.
IDK about the kitchen being better. I suppose there are two main types of room for recording in.
Either a room that sounds nice as is. IE, you're using it for it's reverb qualities, or a room that's treated to make it neutral.
The latter won't be flattering at all but that's the point.
The thing about recording in a 'nice sounding' room is that you're stuck with the verb whether it works in the end or not.
I kinda think of a nice sounding room the same way as high gain electric guitars. Sounds great in real life, but it doesn't always hit the tape well.
I'd recommend using it as a structure guide but not worrying too much about sound perfect against it.
The idea is to use use the guide to get the drums down then you should be able to delete it and re record the guitars.
IDK about the kitchen being better. I suppose there are two main types of room for recording in.
Either a room that sounds nice as is. IE, you're using it for it's reverb qualities, or a room that's treated to make it neutral.
The latter won't be flattering at all but that's the point.
The thing about recording in a 'nice sounding' room is that you're stuck with the verb whether it works in the end or not.
I kinda think of a nice sounding room the same way as high gain electric guitars. Sounds great in real life, but it doesn't always hit the tape well.
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Bisson820
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vocal advice? sing with more confidence. i can hear your lack of confidence.... while ur singing .. .you gotta think your the best thing to walk this earth.
try recording vocals, then record again on another track the same vocal part and use the 2nd take.
a lot of people sing more confidently when they hear another vocal track along side them.
try recording vocals, then record again on another track the same vocal part and use the 2nd take.
a lot of people sing more confidently when they hear another vocal track along side them.
Clam Soup
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I like the energy of Long Way To Tennessee - your voice in that recording reminds me of one of the locals here. I'd probably expand on it - throw a backing vocal at parts of the song you want more punch in.
Caroline - nice song. Voice is weak and overplayed a bit and the addlibs are too dry and out-of-sync. However - it is a really great song! I wanted to sing along. Maybe if you used some of your vocal styles from the Tennessee song mixed in with the softer voice, it would ice the cake? That to me would be worth trying.
Great job with the small system/and environment.
Caroline - nice song. Voice is weak and overplayed a bit and the addlibs are too dry and out-of-sync. However - it is a really great song! I wanted to sing along. Maybe if you used some of your vocal styles from the Tennessee song mixed in with the softer voice, it would ice the cake? That to me would be worth trying.
Great job with the small system/and environment.
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Will25
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Thanks for the kind words! My kitchen seems acoustically better than my bedroom anyways....although that's not hard! I'm in the process of buying at the mo so hopefully I'll have some new recordings up within the next 2-3 weeks. I'll take your comments on board, as should be evident in the new recordings - I like the idea of backing vocals...don't know why i didn't have them before 
Thanks again for the advice!
Thanks again for the advice!