How much do you make in this (music) business?

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How much do you make in this (music) business?

  • $0-$5,000 per year

    Votes: 103 45.6%
  • $6,000-$10,000 per year

    Votes: 10 4.4%
  • $11,000-$20,000 per year

    Votes: 5 2.2%
  • $21,000-$30,000 per year

    Votes: 4 1.8%
  • $30,000 or more per year

    Votes: 14 6.2%
  • I'm still paying my debts

    Votes: 34 15.0%
  • How do you get paid?

    Votes: 56 24.8%

  • Total voters
    226
Awesome. Any new artist?

new artists, I've worked with Lil Wayne, Tum Tum, Mr Pookie, The Game, Bossilinay, Kotton Mouth Kings, Devin The Dude, Dough Boy, Froze Ony, DSR (big tuck, fat bastard, Trai'D), Kanye West, and Tony Williams
 
we made just over 7 grade thanks to return customers and only 10 or 11 new customers but most of them were out of state so was beat sales so was not much work at all but the site background music for sites that shit is a hassle
 
I've worked with Lil Wayne, Tum Tum, Mr Pookie, The Game, Bossilinay, Kotton Mouth Kings, Devin The Dude, Dough Boy, Froze Ony, DSR (big tuck, fat bastard, Trai'D), Kanye West, and Tony Williams

oh im sorry i think you misunderstood the question he said artists :D
 
It's guys who only do it for fun and then say that money doesn't matter make it so that for the guys who the money does matter get screwed.

Charging nothing in a market that is business orientated just completely skews the fact that some people aren't lucky enough to have a really great sideline job and music does pay the bills. I doubt you do your dayjobs for 'fun' or if your employee beside you just starting working for 'fun' what would it do for your wage? This is why I'm pro-union.

Andy

I certainly sympathise with your position. But the bottom line is that nobody is likely to work in most jobs just for fun, that's why employers have to pay to get them done. People do play music for fun.

If amateur musicians will work for next to nothing and the punters are happy with the performance then the market for pros inevitably shrinks. The ultimate version of this is probably karaoke, where the customers are the act themselves.

The only thing that professionals can do, to keep their profession alive at all, is to provide something better, that the amateurs can't or don't. Some hotel lobbies used to provide string quartets. These got replaced by more cost efficient pianists, and now in their turn they're being replaced by automatic player pianos and piped music. If anybody wants back in they have to be good enough to be commercially viable. That's pretty much what being professional means - supplying something that the market wants at a price that it's willing to pay..

I'm not going to worry about putting a professional comedian out of a job if I crack a few jokes to some mates in a pub. Neither am I going to fret too much about a pro musician if I play at an open mic night that replaced his regular night. If he wants his spot back he has to provide something attractive and competitive enough to earn it. Chances are he possibly started out that way himself anyway, playing low or no paying gigs to get a start. And when you got your foot on the ladder, some dude probably fell off the other end to make room for you - there's only so many slots to go round. Sounds tough, but that's the way the world works.

Chris
 
I believe it's an individuals' own fault that they work in whatever industry they do that they do not like their job or believe it's "fun". We all grew up wanting to be something, 90% didn't even persue it.
 
I have really enjoyed reading this thread. Here is a question for the "home studio" individuals who are charging for their service. How do you "weed" out the serious musicians from the WACK-O's. This is your home where your family, kids, girlfriend, dog, cat, goat,......etc. live. I have to admit I have been very uncomfortable on several occasions. I haven't been doing this for very long, and there seems to be a majority of WACK-O's! If you don't think the wack-o's are out there, Just watch the season opener for American Idol. Just about anyone can afford $10-15/hour for some studio time. Any one else had to deal with this?
 
I voted for 0-5000 only because there was no choice that said zero. We do this for fun and a hobby right now, just to see where it leads. Never had quite this much fun doing anything else, but it sure is an expensive hobby.
 
Yes, well...

I try to figure out the amount of time I put in vs. the amount of money I make, and, man, I am working cheap!!
 
Lol Even of those people saying they make over 30k a year. Im guessing a high percentage of those people are lying.
 
Break Even

My short term goal is to break even. I've done three CD's and gig solo, locally, around the Tampa area. I have a home studio so it's easy to make money on CD's, but instruments cost an arm and a leg and another arm.

Like a lot of people here, I'm certainly not doing this for the money. Good thing...
 
I voted $0-$5k...but it's closer to the $0 side of things :)
 
Playing in a band 1 night a week (plus holding down a 9-5'er).

No, I'm not a pro musician. I'm a performing amateur!!
 
After this weekend, I'll be able to change my vote from "how do you get paid" to "0-5000" :D

Hey Scott, I'll bet I'm a lot closer to 0 than you!
 
strictly a live musician ..... no income from recording ........ between 2 and 3 grand a month ...... not much unfortunately.
 
I have sold precisely 3 albums. Closer to $30ish after cost.

Now if you deduct the amount I paid for my studio.. My balance should land somewhere around -$12970.

Yay!
 
If only I had known then what I know now.

So many of us say that, and it's true.


I dreamed for years of becoming a rock star, but I lacked two things: confidence and talent. I have one of those now (confidence) but the talent? Not a chance. I can strum a guitar and sing better than 90% of the people out there, and I can write a songs that a few people say, "hey that's pretty good," but I learned a long time ago that I didn't have that God-given talent for music, so I gave up the dream. It's too bad that it took me so long. I held onto that dream for a long time, and it was actually emotionally painful to hear good music in the car or Ipod because I thought, "I should be in that position."

The dream came in stages.

First, there was the young teenager listening to Ozzy and Dio and thinking, "I'm going to do that someday."

Secondly, I picked up a bass guitar at age 15 and tried for hours a day to learn it, but was impatient and lazy at the same time. I didn't want to learn notes, chords, theory, etc. I just wanted to be naturally good. But it doesn't work that way.

Thirdly, I was with a couple folks here and there, but none of our arrangements worked out. We never wrote anything good. But the entire time I thought I was better than most bands out there. I would see bands like Poison, LA Guns, etc., and think, "those guys stink. I'm totally better than them."

But where was I? Living at home with mom at age 20. Not cool.

Finally, I went off to college and "settled" on a career totally unrelated to music, and I'm successful in it (although I don't make a lot I have enough to own a home, take care of the wife and kids, healthcare and a good retirement in fifteen years). But through most of that I felt tons of regret for not having pursued the dream enough.

Eventually I realized, when I became a Christian, that I was a very arrogant and stubborn person. Now, some people realize who they are in other ways, but for me it was coming to Christ. That's when I learned that I wasn't any more special than anyone else, and I was no more deserving than anyone else.

Then my dream of becoming a rock star went away. Finally I was free of that desire and longing. I also learned that I don't want to be famous (well, a little), but seriously, I now know what problems that would be for me.

I also came to realize that I really do lack the talent necessary to make it as an artist.

That said, I still like playing music, making up songs, and having fun with it. I stink, and none of my music will ever gain me fame or money, but that's okay.

Every once in a while I think of becoming a manager and discovering new talent and nurturing it, getting them signed, and then of course taking a fair cut as an agent or something.

But that career is not scheduled for the immediate future. I'm 41 now and have about 15 years left with this career.


I wish everyone the best of luck in their pursuits. If you have what it takes, go for it. I'm a firm believer that you should do whatever it takes to gain confidence in yourself (and still be humble, of course).

Anyone truly can make it if they have the talent. Looks don't matter. It's all about making it happen for yourself.

I remember a quote by James Hetfield of Metallica. He said it in simple terms: "Anyone can do what we're doing if they just put themselves to it."
 
I've been holding off voting on this until I become more established as a professional.

I'm starting to begin teaching drum lessons, have my first student on Monday. I have sold 15 CD's, and will continue to sell more. And I've made a couple bucks for some random gigs. The most I made in a single day was a session gig for some guy on Craigslist, made $80.

I'd say I've grossed probably about $255 to date. Although if I have a few students I'll be making over $100 a month.
 
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