miroslav
Cosmic Cowboy
Get some XLR to TRS cables...but the adapter is OK too, though it just adds another layer of connections.
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stevieb
Just another guy, really.
Incredible. The first response explained the difference, and the advantage to XLR, clearly and understandably. All the post following just muddied up the water.
Post should have been closed after the first reply.
(Edited to be more accurate. Sorry, 73mgb.)
Post should have been closed after the first reply.
(Edited to be more accurate. Sorry, 73mgb.)
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turboneal
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What if you are using an XLR CABLE but use an adapter to plug into a TRS jack? For instance I am just setting up my studio and I have 4 XLR inputs in the Apogee Ensemble with Preamps. I have 4 other channels with no preamps that use TRS jacks. I have an Avalon AD2022 2 channel preamp that I was thinking to use adapters for in channels 5 and 6 of the Ensemble.
My reasoning is that I already have preamps on channels 1-4 so it's better to put the Avalon into channels 5 and 6.
Since the cable itself is still "balanced" am I good to go with this route or am I being a rookie newb using a TRS adapter between two 2000 dollar pieces of equipment?
In case it matters I am also using Macbook pro, tascam US-2400, Protools 9, (Also still have Logic Studio), AKG 414 (2 each), Shure SM57s, KSM 27, Beta 52, AKG D 112, and a borrowed Presonus Digimax LT 8 channel ADAT pre.
Thanks in advance for your assistance,
-Neal
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I brought this back from the dead on the last post of the previous page. The first two pages of this explained the difference between the two cables. My specific question was about using an XLR cable from my Avalon ad 2022 only using an adapter to utilize a 1/4 jack in channel 5 of my Apogee ensemble. Because I don't want to go from one preamp into another preamp needlessly AND want to utilize all 6 quality preamps at once. You can see my question above and I though admittedly I am learning here, I don't think my question was unreasonable or incredibly stupid. Miroslav has twice your posts and rep power and seems to think my idea is ok. Do you disagree? If so can you explain why?
Thanks,
-Neal
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sjjohnston
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Anything with an X in it is better than anything without an X in it.
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stevieb
Just another guy, really.
Good God, dude, calm down. The original poster just asked how XLR cables were better than TS cables. The first reply answered the question. Then everybody had to go all theoretical about things and it just became a theoretical cluster-fuck. The other posts are not stupid, they are way too much not stupid. Yours included- so esoteric as to be nearly unfathomable to most folks. I don't have an opinion on your post because 1) I don't own an Apogee ensemble, 2) I find your post very hard to follow, and 3) your post seems to be about XLR cables in a very oblique way. Instead of resurrecting a zombie thread that was really about something almost entirely different, you should have started your own thread.
You inadvertently handed me a text-book means of illustrating that you take a very round-about way of communicating, which obscures what you are trying to say. Let me answer your query of:
My answer: No, I do not disagree that Miroslav has more posts then I have, and has more rep power than I do, nor do I disagree that he seems to think your idea is okay. Actually, he has made a mere 1.8376572327044025157232704402516 times the number of posts I have, but he does have 2.9292210777736961498790880136139 times the rep power, but who's counting?
As to "Why?," maybe it's just because he's been around here longer???
Bobbsy
Boring Old Git
Let's try to make some points clearly then:
1. There is no difference at all in audio quality between feeding a balanced line level signal through XLR or TRS connectors (or a mixture of the two.
2. There's no automatic difference between balanced audio (XLR, TRS) and unbalanced audio (TS, Phono). However, unbalanced audio is far more susceptible to electrical interference so balanced is always the one to choose if you can.
3. If you're using a boutique pre-amp, it makes sense to feed this into a line level input without another mic pre amp padded down to handle the hot signal. You may not hear any big difference, but it's just a more sensible way of doing things.
4. To feed from XLR to TRS the best way is to buy or make a cable with the right connector at each end. Yes, you can use adaptors in a pinch but this puts a longer, heavier set of connectors into one of the sockets, increasing the possibility of damaging something.
5. I can't think of a 5.
Bob
1. There is no difference at all in audio quality between feeding a balanced line level signal through XLR or TRS connectors (or a mixture of the two.
2. There's no automatic difference between balanced audio (XLR, TRS) and unbalanced audio (TS, Phono). However, unbalanced audio is far more susceptible to electrical interference so balanced is always the one to choose if you can.
3. If you're using a boutique pre-amp, it makes sense to feed this into a line level input without another mic pre amp padded down to handle the hot signal. You may not hear any big difference, but it's just a more sensible way of doing things.
4. To feed from XLR to TRS the best way is to buy or make a cable with the right connector at each end. Yes, you can use adaptors in a pinch but this puts a longer, heavier set of connectors into one of the sockets, increasing the possibility of damaging something.
5. I can't think of a 5.
Bob
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sjjohnston
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I think some people are missing the fact that the original poster was a clueless 14-year-old when he asked the question, and is now a 25-year-old investment banker.
Bobbsy
Boring Old Git
Nah. Investment bankers are rich and I'm just hoping he'll take pity on me and drop some cash if I schmooze enough!
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Posts should be auto-closed after 3-6 months of inactivity, IMHO.
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stevieb
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That's an interesting idea. But, it would totally deny the only source of pleasure for some here, for whom the only bright spot in their dismal lives is the chance to call someone out for reviving a dead thread. Are you sure you want to be responsible for that? 
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turboneal
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turboneal
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As for resurrecting the thread, I am on several forums related to cars, guns, home recording, and guitars. They all have their own quirks but often you are flamed for not searching and finding related threads instead of constantly starting new threads about the same crap over and over... It seems the better route to take but maybe that's just what I am used to from the first couple forums I started using.
Not here to start fights, argue or piss anyone off, just trying to learn as much as I can as fast as I can and get something accomplished in my studio before I go back overseas.
Thanks,
-Neal
Not here to start fights, argue or piss anyone off, just trying to learn as much as I can as fast as I can and get something accomplished in my studio before I go back overseas.
Thanks,
-Neal
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stevieb
Just another guy, really.
Neal, please understand that I was not flaming you for resurrecting a zombie thread. Just made an observation that this thread had answered the OP's question about as early as is possible.
dgatwood
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On this board, 99% of people who resurrect old threads are spammers who post a single sentence that's pointless and inane in half a dozen old threads so that they can get their post count up high enough that the board will let them post links. You can tell when this is happening because A. they dig up multiple old threads, B. they never post anything of consequence, and C. they always have a number in their usernames....