How does diaphragm size/polar pattern relate to mic applications?

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ganna translate to spanish, lol

hey harvey, muchas gracias.

i had 1 week reading the whole thread, and thanks to the guy who do the word doc, i just find the word doc, yesterday and i print so i can read with more time, since engilsh is a lil hard to me.


but really thanks for give your time to help people.

do u ever use an Altec 650b? i have 5 of them and for my ears they sound pretty nice(i have 1 sm57 but almost 90% go with the altecs), now i gonna try to get a pair for overheads (oktavas) and a LDC (mxl 67) for main vocal besides my shure 55sh.

thanks again. Saludos desde Mexico.
 
The only Altec mics I've ever used were Altec M20 "Lipstick" tube mics. I owned one when they were still new, and I have one that I picked up at a garage sale about 15 years ago. It's been sitting at Stephen Paul's shop for about that long now.

Translating this thread into Spanish would be great. Hopefully, you'll put it on the net somewhere, with a posted link on this thread.
 
Spanish version

very nice from u harvey, i gonna do my best to translate to spanish and send u a copy, then if u give the permission i do a pdf (or a falsh)in my web(the web of my band) or in your web i give u the pdf or the flash i saw u have an area in your page for articles, of course giving u the total credit. and the links to this thread. can be nice if u have some digital photos of the examples like the tunnel for the kick the xy position, etc, i have no problem with space in the web, so the document can be large.


thanks again. if u have some images u can email me to ahespin@prodigy.net.mx, and i think i can do a english and spanish version in the same file, like odd pages in english and not odd pages in spanish.
 
I've noticed that all the pictures and diagrams have disappeared, probably when we redesigned our website. I'll try to zip them up and post them here when I get a chance. I'll leave it to everybody to figure out where they go.
 
I'm Lost

I Just Have 1/2 Year Working In Digital Home Studio.

I Used Sm58 For Vocal, I Wanna Buy A Studio Mic. Question Is...

Cheap And Good!!! Which One???

Im Starting O Need Simple Answers, Thanks...
 
....$100 bucks. mxl 67g. Studio Projects B1, Behringer B1, Audio Technica 2020

mxl 67g and the Studio Projects B1 are the most highly praised of that pack. they are all condensors and require phantom power. i own the 67g and i kick myself for not buying it first instead of the Behringer B1 which i did buy first.
 
vialgama said:
I Just Have 1/2 Year Working In Digital Home Studio.

I Used Sm58 For Vocal, I Wanna Buy A Studio Mic. Question Is...

Cheap And Good!!! Which One???

Im Starting O Need Simple Answers, Thanks...
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Actually Alex, your question (and distortedrumble's great answer) belong in the general mic forum rather than this thread. This thread is more of a tutorial, rather than addressing specific microphones. Or check the next sticky down.
 
i am a newbie ,I am glad to come here,I think this is a good place.
 
XY Configuration gif

Harvey Gerst said:
X/Y miking setup

For some of you that may not know what "X/Y miking" is, here's a diagram of two cardioids set up for X/Y miking:

[More on all this stuff later.
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Do you still have that XY configuration image available somewhere? I'd like to see exactly what you are talking about. A picture is indeed worth 1000 words :D
 

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Harvey Gerst said:
Yes, I recorded Ornette when he was just starting out He played at the Saturday night jam session at "Georgia's Place" in El Monte, and I would pick him up and drive him there (with his white plastic saxophone). The house band consisted of Charlie Haden on bass, Freddie Gruber on drums, and I can't remember the piano player's name, but he was killer as well. It was in the early 60s sometime, as I recall, but I can't remember what year. I used a Berlant Concertone 20 tape deck and two Capps condensor mics (set about 6 feet apart).
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Just in case I found all these Berlant Auctions... Should bring back some memories for Harvey Gerst :D http://www.nationalstate.com/s/berlant
 
As a Newbie...

There is a whole lot of good information in this place, it will take me at least 2 weeks to digest most of it. I would, however, like to add a little to this "best microphone" thing.
There is an article in INSIDE CONNECTIONS, a very popular East Coast US recording industry magazine, in which the writer of one article writes about the pros and cons of digital vs analog recording. He states that most pop artists and producers prefer digital, BUT others seem to much prefer analog, because analog, "can and usually does give the truest sound."
He further points out that back in the 50's (remember that, garage rock etc,) and a great example is Buddy Holly and the Crickets, gave us a fantastic, far ahead of their time, in fact in a garage, with very simple R-R recording equipment that was easily, and inexpensively, available to the consumer. Further, a cheap, (as someone asked, Radio Shack) microphone that cost less that $20.00, and now how about somebody else telling us about other "garage bands" who in fact gave us 100% true and professional 45rpm records (remember those?) on less than a thousand dollars.
There are many, many stories of this.
The bottom line seems to be that the manufacturers seem to constantly find ways of convincing us that their new equipment is the best ever available, and I wonder just how much of this is hype and brainwashing? Which way would you bet? I have experimented myself, and ask some so called "professional recording technicians" which is the professional and which is not, and the results are really....uhhhhmmmm...interesting to say the least. LOL
 
scrubs said:
Here are a couple of pics:

https://homerecording.com/bbs/showpost.php?p=1330247&postcount=6
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hi there scrubs
tangerine here, just joined and have just listened to your Y microphone set up using the small diaphrams,......... nice. from what I can tell did you pan both recorded images to left and right extremes of the stereo spectrum because it sounds nice and spacial and is a technique I will have a play with over the coming weeks. Acoustic guitars are not something I get chance to work with very often and the technique shown seems to work a treat cheers for the inspiration.
 
Newbie praise to Harvey

Thank you Harvey for the info....2001 info has endured the journey....And worth every sec of .....errrr....every min...errrr..hrs???...how about weeks...?
I am about to embark on the 'Info Journey' myself...with pen and pad in hand.(I am memory illiterate)....Again thanks, this will really help me .... :)
 
Recirding a Brass Quintet

Harvey Gerst said:
Flugelhorn, eh? You mean a trumpet on steroids? When I recorded Buddy Childers jazz flugelhorn many years ago, I think I used an old Sony condenser mic, about 18"to 24" away, and at an angle to the bell, but don't hold me to it - that was a long time (and many drugs) ago.
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Hi

Can You recommend a good way to record a brass quintet in a church atmosphere?? I only have at At 4040 cs1000 and SM 58 and 2 sm 57

I want to put the large diaphram mic in the center,,but should I use any of the others for fill or olo work??
PLease HELP>>

Thnks

Stevie Mac
 
STEPLIN said:
Hi

Can You recommend a good way to record a brass quintet in a church atmosphere? I only have an AT 4040, cs1000, an SM 58, and 2 sm 57.

I want to put the large diaphram mic in the center, but should I use any of the others for fill or solo work?
PLease HELP>>

Thanks

Stevie Mac
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Try the SM57's spaced out wide (about 6 to 8 feet apart), with the 4040 in the center. Back at least 4 to 6 feet (maybe more, if the room acoustics allow it).

I've pretty much given up on posting in this forum, but maybe one of the regular "contributors" can help you further. In particular, listen to people like Richard Monroe, chessrock, Blue Bear, acorec, and a few others here that actually have some real experience in recording.
 
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To Harvey "The Man" Gerst:

Forgive me if this has been covered elsewhere.

Are you giving up posting because of the static and heat and boneheadedness that people let fly on the internet? Or just too busy? Either way, it's the loss of everyone here who's really trying to get better at recording.

Question to the good people that run this site: Is it possible to start an "Ask Harvey" forum were he has the power to ban people who are rude or troublesome or general time-wasters? And if so, Harvery, would you be interested?

Thanks again, Harvey. You've made a lot of people better at recording, and the appreciation is deep and wide.

Yours,

Al Sim
 
Al Sim said:
To Harvey "The Man" Gerst:

Forgive me if this has been covered elsewhere.

Are you giving up posting because of the static and heat and boneheadedness that people let fly on the internet? Or just too busy? Either way, it's the loss of everyone here who's really trying to get better at recording.

Question to the good people that run this site: Is it possible to start an "Ask Harvey" forum were he has the power to ban people who are rude or troublesome or general time-wasters? And if so, Harvery, would you be interested?

Thanks again, Harvey. You've made a lot of people better at recording, and the appreciation is deep and wide.

Yours,

Al Sim
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The largest part of the problem is just one person here who repeatedly makes unfounded allegations, and uses inuendo and suppositions (stated as facts) to further a pretty obvious agenda against one manufacturer. It's "muckraking" and I've never liked that, in any form. I don't like to see it, and I don't wanna be around it.

But that's not the only problem I have here. I take recording (and helping people) seriously. I also believe in giving back to the community. I honestly believe that I have helped a lot of people here make better recordings, by helping them to understand the "process" a little better.

But, when someone here calls me a "fucking moron" (or worse), it makes me take a hard look at my reasons for being here in the first place. Hell, I'm almost 70 years old, and I've NEVER been insulted and ridiculed as many times as I have been on this forum - not ever in my life. And for what? Trying to help people learn a little more about recording?

I understand about the "anonymous posting shit on the Internet" (I've been posting on audio forums since 1987), but the level of personal attacks here has just gotten out of hand, at least to me.

Over the last four years, people here have accused me of trying to start a "cult following", having an "oversized ego", and God knows how many other reasons - all ascribed to my particular failings. All I've done is tried to help people learn a little more about recording.

Is that so fucking difficult to understand?

I'm not interested in glory, having a cult, or a following, or building up my ego. I've done enough things in the music industry in the last 50+ years to assure that my name won't be forgotten overnight. I don't need any ego feeding here. But a little simple respect would be nice. I think I've earned it here over the last four years.

I've tried to explain what I've learned in my 50+ years of recording about mics and mic placements, torn down mics to show what's inside, explained how to build phantom power supplies, how to match mics in stores, and dozens of other things I thought people would find helpful. Most people have found it helpful.

I know a lot of people here have found some of the things I've written to be helpful, but the few "hecklers" just get to me, again and again. I know I should just ignore them, but I can't seem to do that. So, I'm backing out of the mic forum and letting the hecklers take over. Maybe if enough people report them, Dragon will finally do something about them.

I'm not trying to start a "Jihad" here, or polarize the fourm even further, or trying to make this all about me. This mic forum has simply become a place I don't care to visit any more, so I'll just stay out of it for now, and try to offer advice in other areas of this BBS that are less prone to personal attacks.
 
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