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azraelswings
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It doesn't matter. Don't think...Feel.. Your worst enemy is intillectual thought when you write...leave that for the mix, and arangements.. just do whatever comes naturaly to you, even if it's dissonant..it will be a heartfelt dissonance...which wins over half assed theoretical "perfection".
I agree that critical or theoretical analysis (what you call intellectual thought) are best kept away from the writing process. But, always limiting yourself to what comes naturally is a great way to stifle growth. Also, I might be reading this wrong, but that statement about dissonance implies that understanding music theory will somehow limit you from using dissonance, which is simply not true.
YOu could have all the notes the same even.. ever hear of the one note samba? Granted he lied and there are more than one note overall.. but it's mostly the same note being repeated over and over in a certain rhythm (depending on the arrangement) Just do whatever you feel and let the people who tell you it's "wrong" go suck on their own infant dicks. Songwriting is an expression of what's within, not an academic exersize.
I don't really think his question was about what is 'right and wrong,' so much as a request for help proceeding.
The best song you ever write will the the one that touches people emotionally (regardless of what the emotion is). In order to do that, you need to feel with all your heart every note you sing. So just feel what you do, and do what you feel, and fuck everyone else.
Great advice.
Btw..the best songwriters are usually not the best musicians, and the best music theorists are usually just college music theory teachers.
Again, misleading. While some theorists might limit themselves to academic work on theory, there are a great many composers that use 'theory' in their compositional methods. And they assuredly felt every note they composed.
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General conversation:
For me, learning music fundamentals has expedited my creative processes; transcribing is easier (both from recordings and ideas I hear mentally), I occasionally begin by writing a riff on paper, forcing me to work outside of the patterns my fingers are used to. These riffs NEVER stay in the same form for long, but it gets me started with ideas I wouldn't have found just playing around.
When you're writing, you need to remember that no one will know, ask, or care how you wrote the song. They'll only care how the final product sounds. If trying particular notes over a chord works for you, and you eventually find something you like the sound of and feel, deep down, then that's the right method. If just strumming and singing over it is the way, then thats the way. But dismissing methods on the basis of "theory killing soul," is just ignorant.
Chase, if you're always following the chord tones and would like to branch out, you might want to try playing the chords while intentionally singing other notes. Sing a note outside the chord, sustain that note, play the chord. Or, slow the progression down and improvise a new melody over the chords. Just force yourself to sing different notes. These ideas might help, might not, but will hopefully get you out of the rut of sticking to chord tones. Not that singing chord tones is bad, but if you'd like to avoid it, thats one way.
I would take TerraMortin's advice and improvise over that progression. If you wanted, you could try singing scale tones from each chord pair's key (akin to improvisational methods). Or, you could stick to notes in both keys. Just remember not to feel limited by these methods, and treat them only as starting points.