how do i connect through MIDI from XLR?

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ive been recording on an 8 track for a while and i am frustrated with the lack of editing possiblities. so ive decided to use cakewalk. but i cant seem to figure out how to record on it as you have to record through midi. suggestions?
thanks,
josh
 
ive been recording on an 8 track for a while and i am frustrated with the lack of editing possiblities. so ive decided to use cakewalk. but i cant seem to figure out how to record on it as you have to record through midi. suggestions?
thanks,
josh
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I haven't a clue what you are talking about. What is it you are trying to record?

Is it microphones? If so, you need a pre-amp (or a mixer or a sound card with built-in pre-amps). Simply put, you plug the mic into the pre-amp, and then feed the pre-amp's output into your computer's sound card.

Most Cakewalk programs will also allow you to record MIDI, but a MIDI input device (such as a keyboard) wouldn't have an XLR connection on it. It would have a MIDI connection.
 
Midi is not audio. Midi is a control signal that will play an instrument.

Midi doesn't use xlr cables.
 
well what i am asking is...the only soundcard adapters i can find have midi (5pin) inputs and my preamp only has xlr outputs. so i cant figure out how to get from the preamp to the soundcard.
 
well what i am asking is...the only soundcard adapters i can find have midi (5pin) inputs and my preamp only has xlr outputs. so i cant figure out how to get from the preamp to the soundcard.
What sound card do you have? I have never seen a sound card with only MIDI inputs.

Also, what pre-amp are you using? Most pre-amps would have XLR inputs, but the outputs are typically 1/4" phone jacks.

And lastly, what on earth does this have to do with Cakewalk?
 
If your 'soundcard' only has midi inputs, it isn't a soundcard.

-OR-

Those aren't midi inputs, they are din connectors that you need a breakout cable to use. The breakout cable will have all the ins and outs.
 
Yea you gotta provide more info for us to answer a question like that. What are you using and what are you trying to do.
 
alright i apologize if im a complete moron. and if im in the wrong section of the forum.

i am trying to use cakewalk and it seems to me that to record into it or playback you must have "midi" inputs and outputs. i want to connect my preamp which has xlr and 1/4" outputs. so i am perplexed as to how to get these outputs to connect with my computer and still interact with cakewalk.
 
alright i apologize if im a complete moron. and if im in the wrong section of the forum.

i am trying to use cakewalk and it seems to me that to record into it or playback you must have "midi" inputs and outputs. i want to connect my preamp which has xlr and 1/4" outputs. so i am perplexed as to how to get these outputs to connect with my computer and still interact with cakewalk.

I'll try this again:


MIDI ISN'T AUDIO. YOU CANNOT PLUG A MICROPHONE INTO A MIDI INPUT AND MAKE IT WORK. MIDI IS A TYPE OF CONTROL LANGUAGE THAT TELLS YOUR COMPUTER, KEYBOARD, OUTBOARD, ETC... WHAT TO DO, WHEN TO DO IT, FOR HOW LONG TO DO IT, WHAT PITCH TO PLAY, WHAT INSTRUMENT TO PLAY... ETC...



There isn't a way, if your soundcard is indeed midi, to plug your preamp into it. You need an interface that will convert your audio signal into a digital signal your computer recognizes (this still isn't midi).
 
Unless you have an ancient version of cakewalk that is midi only (from 15 years ago), your premise is wrong. Midi doesn't carry audio, there is no way to plug a preamp, microphone, line level device, etc... into a midi port and get sound.

You need to find the analog inputs on the soundcard and plug into that. Then configure cakewalk to 'see' that input.

What would make it easier to help you is knowing what you are using.

What version of cakewalk are you using?

what soundcard you have?

what preamp you have?
 
alright i apologize if im a complete moron. and if im in the wrong section of the forum.

i am trying to use cakewalk and it seems to me that to record into it or playback you must have "midi" inputs and outputs. i want to connect my preamp which has xlr and 1/4" outputs. so i am perplexed as to how to get these outputs to connect with my computer and still interact with cakewalk.

The manual has detailed diagrams on basic setups. It also has a decent introductory section. Start there.
 
thats cool if it isnt midi. i couldnt care less. midi is none of my concern. hell i only say midi because cakewalk said "you need to choose a midi output source to listen to play back". ive admitted i dont know anything about what im doing. so i figured id ask the experts. terminology aside what im asking is.

im using :
cakewalk sonar 4
behringer MIC100 preamp
soundwave 5.1 PCI sound card with :

Expansion / Connectivity
Interfaces

5 x audio - mini-phone stereo 3.5 mm ¦ 1 x gameport / MIDI - 15 pin D-Sub (DB-15)
Compatible Slots

1 x PCI

so how might I input or output to satisfy cakewalk?

josh
 
Yup, you are going to have to get the adapters necessary to plau the output of the preamp into the line input of your soundcard. The input of your soundcard will not be balanced and it will most likely be a stereo plug.

If you had a recording soundcard, it would all make a little more sense to you. The stock souncard you are using is made to plug Ipods into, so you are using it a little beyond what it was meant to do.
 
hell i only say midi because cakewalk said "you need to choose a midi output source to listen to play back".
I suspect you are in the section of the manual dealing with MIDI. You might try using the section for recording audio.

Most Cakewalk products will record either MIDI or audio (or both). You will be dealing with audio.

I gave you the answer in my first post.
Simply put, you plug the mic into the pre-amp, and then feed the pre-amp's output into your computer's sound card.

As noted in the other posts, you will need some adapters to do this - since the output of your pre-amp is 1/4" phone plugs, while the input to your sound card is 1/8" stereo mini-plug.

Once you have the physical connections made, you will need to profile your sound card in Sonar (I assume you are using Sonar), and then select an audio track and choose an input. The inputs should show up as something like SoundCard Left, Soundcard Right, and Soundcard Stereo. Since you are recording from a mono source into a stereo input, your signal will most likely be carried on the Left Channel - so choose Sound Card Left as the input.

Set the output on the track to Soundcard 1/2, and whatever you record should playback through whatever speakers you have connected to your computer.

I realize you are a newbie, but you've got some really basic stuff to get down first. It would seem to me that you would have done a little more research before plunking down a couple hundred bucks on recording software.
 
alright well thanks a lot it seems i have. the "midi" message just threw me off.
 
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