HomeRecording Compilation CD

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Someone mentioned this a while back and I thought it was a pretty good idea. Sorry, but I don't remember which thread it was in....I think 37point5 might have brought it up.

Anyway, it might be pretty fun to make a HomeRecording.com compilation CD. I know that I tend to lose mp3's or get rid of them to save space...and there are a lot of good tunes that I wouldn't mind hanging on to.

But for the most part it would just be for fun.

I've compiled a list of users who have posted music to the mixing clinic. It's pretty big, but I'm pretty sure that 60% of these guys (or gals) aren't active members of the BBS anymore so that should cut it down quite a bit.

If you think this would be a fun project, then please post in this thread that you are interested. Once I get a list of people who want to contribute, I'll need a song list from each person. From there we can vote on which songs to include (1 per person)...or you can just submit your favorite.

istyle
belltunes
S8-N
Emeric
drstawl
ametth
kite
IanSimpson
tjobrien
Buckster
sonusman
the5web
Conrad Josepi
hwhalen
jitteringjim
bevins
Dragon????
houdini
Matt
crazy horse
tony moore
Slackmaster2K
37point5
nkiner
Dondello
usman
Ranger
dmcsilva
Eddie N
reco
Fender
Layth
gibs
Brad
David
Dkorg
Cooperman
PPatrick
dj Happee

If there's enough interest I'll need volunteers for the following:

- One person with a DSL/Cable/T1..FAST internet connection and a CD burner.

- One person who would be interested in contributing some mastering time...nothing fancy. (Hell, just normalization would probably do it) Preferably one of the Pro guys like Ed or RecEng.

- An artist (visual).

- Someone else with a CD burner (and a lot of time) or access to a REAL CD stamper.

And of course a bit of cash from everyone. I couldn't imagine that it would cost more than $5-10 per person...it'll cost more in time than anything.

An interesting name will be needed. Maybe something like HomeRec'ers Volume 1. Whatever.

I think this idea has some potential...could even do an MP3 page for it and let MP3.COM burn the CD's from mp3's we think it's sellable. It'd be some extra adverstising none-the-less.

Lemme know.

Slackmaster 2000
 
A cool idea indeed... I dunno what I could contribute as far as getting it off the ground, but I do have a burner and a DSL connection - perhaps selling a DAM CD or full length disc on mp3.com would be cool, but if any sold, there would be the question of where the money would go - perhaps to a charity, or to help support the site here that we use?
 
Well, the MP3.COM issue isn't really that important...just something to think about. For now I'd just like to see what we can put together.

What's your DSL speed? What I'm thinking is that there are a couple places that will allow you to post files up to around 50MB. If everyone on a slow connection, like me, could upload their wav mix(es) to one of these sites...then someone with a good connection and a CD burner could download them all and burn them onto a CD and ship it to whoever is going to be doing the mastering.

Basically we'll have to do a lot of this via snail mail. No big deal though.

Slackmaster 2000
 
OK, just did some checking... I use WINONCD 3.6 CD burning software and it supports mp3 files. In other words, it decodes the mp3 and writes it as cd audio. The quality might be in question to some perfectionists/purists, but I don't see that it would make that much of a difference - especially if someone really did a bang-up mastering job. If anyone wanted to go this route, I could set up an ftp site for uploads - it would probably save some time and bandwidth for all those involved.
 
It makes a huge difference. Just take a look at some of the threads around here discussing bitrates and the strengths of various encoders. I know that simply moving from BladeEnc to SCMPX made my mp3's sound twice as good.

I say that if we go the MP3 route for transferring files, then we encode at a minimum of 256kbps which is about the point where you're not going to hear much of a difference.

The files will be larger, but it's really only a single pain for each person on a slow connection. Start the upload before you go to bed...

What I'm going for here is a CD with the best quality music that the authors could achieve. I don't think that spending extra time on a single file transfer is going frighten too many people...maybe....

Perhaps I shouldn't have stressed snail mail so much. Really it's only going to be one mailing from the downloader to the mastering guy and then one mailing from the mastering guy to the guy who burns the CDs....and then the CD's will have to be mailed to everyone. No way around that of course.

Slackmaster 2000
 
Hey Slackmaster, must have taken some time compiling that list. I think it's a great idea. Just have to see what the interest level is - I'm game for it. Not sure what I can offer to help out, I have a burner but no high speed access.

Emeric
 
Indeed, the encoder makes a lot of difference, I didn't consider that not everyone would have a good one. I also agree on the higher sampling rate - my point was just that moving 50+ megs of wav data would be a real problem for those on slower connections. I like the idea either way, and I'm willing to contribute what I can.
 
I'm game.
Maybe I can contribute in the "art" dept... I could carve "HomeRecording.com" in my friends chest and photograph it.
 
Count me in. I've only posted 1 mp3 so far but I can help do some processing or artwork. I'm pretty good with my photoshop, especially on abstract stuff! :)
 
I think it sounds pretty cool... I won't be able to contribute a track cos I no longer have a band to record but I would definately be interested in buying a CD!!!
 
I'm not able to summit a song yet but I'll buy a CD to support you guys
 
I can only really contribute music via CD because I'm not internet equipped on my computer at home; and my computer at work with internet connections does not have a sound card. That's why I haven't posted anything. So, if you do downloads, I can't contribute. As far as mastering, I really don't have too much time (we should have done it a few months ago, plenty of time). I've finally got my studio up and running again since putting in my 432 point patchbay. I have a lot of clients in line for recording. Man. If it was always this steady and I could depend on it staying this way, I could quit my graveyard job. Besides, I have a feeling someone else would do a better job with that. I can really just do simple editing and normalizing for the clients who aren't gonna go to a mastering engineer.

Of course, I'll make time if we can't find anyone else! So count on me if you need to! Then, I can add on my own if the download thing is decided.
 
Hey Slackman, how can I say no to helping out.

Also, I would be honored to "Master" the compilation although I am one of those people with a slow internet connection (funny how 56k modems where all the rage a year ago!!! hell, I connect at 48,000kbs all day long!!!) if someone with a faster modem and some server space was to maybe compile the MP3's and then either send it to me on a CD ROM or a Zip disk I could do the mastering.

Let me know.

Ed
 
S2K:
I think I had also mentioned this in a post some time ago. It's a great idea.
I would be willing to contribute in any way I can-musically or otherwise.

dmc
 
Great! Things are looking pretty good considering that this thread was posted only yesterday.

First I'd like to say that I don't think we have to push anything time-wise. If we get this done by next February...cool. If it doesn't get done until July...cool. Doesn't matter. It's only fair to give everyone ample time to contribute what they can. We do need to come up with a cut-off for submissions though. I'm thinking maybe the end of January or maybe February? That'll give everyone a month or two to get signed up and fine tune their recordings.

Second, don't be shy because you've only posted one or two MP3's. I've only posted
2-1/2 myself. As long as your an active member of the BBS, you're welcome to contribute. This is for everyone, not just those who are able to post a new song every week.

Third, the reason I think that we need one person with a fast connection and a CD burner is that the best way to do this is to mail CD's. Someone needs to download all of the songs, burn them, and then send the disc to the person mastering the project. JitteringJim? Would you be able to do it?

Fourth, I'm glad to hear from both RecEng and Ed so quickly. Looks like Ed is willing to do the mastering and I don't think that anyone in their right mind is going to have a problem with that! Thanks Ed!

Fifth, for Recording Engineer and those who are not Internet-equipped at home, I think it'd be fine to simply mail a copy of your song to Ed when it's time to do the mastering.

Sixth, if you're going to submit a recording of a band, then make sure you own the rights to the music or have permission from everyone involved. Actually, if someone with some music-law experience would like to help out with copyright statements or whatever we'll need...I'd very much appreciate it! If you've been waiting to send in that copyright form, maybe now's the time.

Seventh. Artwork and jacket layout. Has anyone ever done a homebrew CD jacket? It'll need to be several pages long because I think it would be great to have everyone submit a small little clip about their work. So we need someone to do some artwork (S8-N or Crazyhorse??) and we need someone who has the ability to create the jackets. We might end up having someone go down to Kinkos or whatever to have them print em. We'll figure out the $$$$ situation first of course.

Eighth, if you can't submit a wave then submit an MP3 of the highest quality.

Ninth, if you don't have your own MP3.COM site, set one up now. It's free and permanant, they're just SLOOOWW. I'd like to have a URL to each person's website in the CD jacket.

Tenth, these are going to be CD-R's that we're making unless someone has connections. I don't think we can afford to have these professionally burned...or maybe we can. Anyone???????

Lastly, make sure that the email address in your profile is correct. If you don't want the world to know your email address then send it to me at mailto:blarson@imt.net

Whew, that was a mouthfull.

Slackmaster 2000
 
Great idea. I'd definitely buy one, and would like to contribute a song if there's still space available. I've seen several compilation efforts like this available for certain mailing lists, the biggest being a 5 disc set from the Big VS recording list. I'm not sure exactly how it was worked out, but I feel certain that most of these lists had the discs pressed and the artwork professionaly printed. Maybe talking to someone involved directly with another one of these compilations would raise some good ideas about making this thing happen. Just a suggestion, as I really have no idea how they did it.
 
Ok I've been thinking about this...though I'm supposed to be working.

I know it's dangerous to think ahead too much at the beginning of a project...but...

If we get enough support it would be cool to get these CDs stamped out professionally. The problem, of course, is money. It'll cost at least $1000 to get it done (500-1000 copies).

There might be 2000 members here, but only 50 or so are active...and few actually post songs to the Mixing Clinic. If 50 people were willing to pay $20 apiece, then we'd have it covered...but who's going to want to prepay for one of these things other than those who have music on em? I'm hoping to have around 15 people contribute music. If those 15 people would kick in 70 bucks then we'd have it covered...and then CDs could be sold to other members for, say, $15-20 and that money would be distributed amongst the musicians who pre-payed until it all evened out....but that's kinda iffy. Anyone want to donate a credit card? :)

Regardless of what we decide to do, SOMETHING is going to be done...even if it's a CD-R with a piece of notebook paper stuffed into the case :)

I need opinions.

Slackmaster 2000
 
Yeah, I can do it. I'll open an ftp tonight and keep it open more or less 24/7 for those who want to send a mix. If you don't have an ftp client, go to www.shareware.com or www.jumbo.com or any other shareware site and get one. I recommend Cute FTP. If you have any trouble I'll be glad to help out. The ftp is 216.78.136.43

user: homerec
pass: compcd

you can simply upload into the root directory, or create your own directory.
Be warned: any hanky-panky on my machine will result in a shut-down. :(

Ok, for those who already have a file uploaded elsewhere, send me the url and I'll download it. For those without net access at home, you'll need to send a copy of your tune to sonusman via snail-mail. I guess that's about it. :)
 
Let's get a list going before we start uploading songs though. We need to know who wants to contribute what since there's limited space on a CD.

Also, I'm still not sure if enough people want to play...so far we have about 5 contributers and we need more. I'd really like to get as much variety on there as possible.

Thanks for offering your server Jim, that'll help quite a bit! How much space are you willing to part with at once?

Slackmaster 2000
 
Slackman:

Count me in for the compilation. But it would be a good idea to solidify the project design a bit more before proceeding.

If there is a need for a decision step where some person or group decides what will be included on the CD, then a plan must be in place for distribution of the entries and collection of opinions.

And since Ed has been generous enough to offer up his mastering skills I'll also volunteer to D/L and write to CDR any files that would be too large for Ed to grab and mail it to him via snail mail for the final step. So I can rest easy with this proposal I'm going to limit this to 2 CDs- but that's 34 songs of >4:00 in full 16 bit-44.1KHz .wav format. Alot more in .mp3. More than I'll be asked to transfer I'm sure. And if you do this via JustOn- their 50MB limit would allow
>4 minutes at CD quality.
 
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