"hmm" - a.k.a. Easter Sunday

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Nice tune my friend! This is great.
Did you write, and record this today?

The guitar could have some more nuts.. and some more distortion.. I like what you did with the "request denied" line.

The volume is way too low.. Guitars maing.. Guitars!
 
Yah i skipped the egg hunts ;) and made this instead. Thanks for the encouragement.

Holy crap you were right, I went back and squeezed all this extra headroom out of the distorted guitars and rarely redlined. I had to add a few adjustments and now my animations have more nodes than a 14 year old without clearasil but hey! you gotta do what you gotta do.

Still tho, overall I must not be doing something right because the overall level is still lower. Can it be my tracking? Equip? Do you ignore the red meter? I remixed with basically only adding guitar level so my mix must've been shy. That's what I get for trying to mix after tracking all day.:eek:


Oh btw, I recorded the dist rhy guits with the distortion level set to 1. For some reason I've become afraid of overuse of an effect rather than under. Every time I really crank, it just starts to get like audio mud. :[
 
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real nice...

not much of an engineer and don't have an extremely critical ear, but the former comments were all things that I noticed, but could not explain. I don't feel that any of these nuances are unbearable, just alternative possibilities (the guitar could work for me personally). But I like the song...writing by???

-Humble-
 
HOLY CRAP!


I just remixed it 5 times. Each time i boosted my master outputs by 1db until I stopped at +5db (I bet i could have gone a few more). My red meter was having a seizure but I still think the output result was fine.


I posted both versions if you want to compare before and after.
http://www.vanblarcom.com/Khompewtur/mp3/hmm.htm


Does this mean you can ignore your meters sometimes?




bmorris, the material is my own.
 
I`ll check this out when i get home. I really enjoyed the first one you posted.
 
Pretty cool song and i can hear some really nice stuff in it. It was clipping a bit in the +5db version though, i dunno what its like in the original version.. Has a slightly dark feel to the song, so if you were after that then you've done it well :) Try to record as hot as you can without clipping, and this applies to all of the signals in your chain, whether it be your mixer's gain or your recording level gain etc... I find that if you do all of this you usually end up with a much louder recording.
Not much else to say :)
 
What are you using for a soundcard?.... Are you using a soundcard?

The guitars are clipping badly at +5. The bass seems much louder than everything else as well. (I've been working all day and havent slept much so my ears are fried, but its definatly clipping bad) The bass is real boomy too...

The entire mix is peaking at about -7 on my delta 44 which is a bit shy of the reds. The first mix was much better.. ... actually they are BOTH at about -7.. Only the mix at +5 is staying there constantly and the mix at 0 is only peaking.

Are you rasing the volume of the entire mix or the individual tracks? Just so you know I'm a retarded engineer so dont really take what I say with a grain of salt and definatly get more opinions from better ears... I'd bring the drums up to about -3, then the guitars, individually, and work the bass and vox up around there, then compress the entire mix with a real low ratio attack around 5 release around 50 and work from there.. (mind you this is only if I were working on it, which I'm not.) after getting the most balanced sound I can get I'd limit it and bring the volume up to -.05 or so. If you just want to raise the volume compress/limit the mix until the peaks are under control and then just normalize it.. but thats probably not all your looking for.

Just a suggestion, but I've found it to help me..
Lay off it for a few days. Dont listen to the song at all.. work on something else. Then on saturday morning or something give it a good listen to... Its hard to put it off that long but I can see in my mixes it makes a HUGE difference.

This song ROCKS man so whatever you do don't get discouraged and ditch it... The more I listen the more it rocks.. get some distortion on that shit!! chung chugachuga chung chung... I could smash someones head in to this with about more punch.

You down for a collab? Im suprised WISC isnt all over this shit.

-Demensia
 
This is areally nice tune man, I like as much as the other one. The bass darned good, but sounds like its doing dynamic hopscotch all over the place to me, I`d compress the hell out of it. The drums aren`t fat enough, I like big bus-sized kick and howitzer snare. With the simpler line they are playing they could thunder more and not intrude on the mix. The guitar is great but the tone is a bit abrasive and shrill to me. Vocals could use fattening. I dont think volume was the issue for you. Eq could achieve the punch without having to heat the tracks up so much, maybe. I`m a rookie at this but I`m honest in telling you what I hear. :)
 
hmmm.. ok well it looks like just because I didn't notice that much clipping on my gear doesn't mean I can automatically assume that it won't appear worse on other people's. I replaced the +5db version with a +3db, but even then I can see that just raising my levels on the entire mix is not the solution.

thanks for the helpful suggestions everyone, uhm first off I am using an Aardvark soundcard. I don't really know how to compress the mix. The aardvark has a compressor (software) for tracking, but I've found this to add a weird like liquidy sound to any tracks I take with it so I don't use it.

What can I use to compress the bass, entire mix? So far I've been literally selecting like single spikes in the wave representations and squooshing spots -3db (Im using Cakewalk 9.0) Then when I can play the entire way through without a red line, I'll use the Cakewalk mix function. From what I've seen this automatically normalizes your mix because I tried normalizing an mp3 output and nothing changed.

demensia, I'll use your mix methods when I try again. I'd definitely be up for some collab, how do I participate?
 
what software are you using to record?

- I'll send you a PM about a collab later tonight.
 
Cakewalk PA 9.0 and the Aaardvark card has a virtual console with eq and compression (I don't think they work very well, maybe I'm using them wrong?).
 
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