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Alright, no filters....

These were the settings on my amp when I recorded it:
Bass - 5
Mids - 8
Treble - 5
Boost switch - Off
Resonance - 5
Presence -0
Texture - Turned fully clockwise to "class A/B"

According to an EQ analysis presence controlled the frequencies around 10Khz (Where some of the fizz I was hearing before sits) So I turned that all the way down.

http://www.mediafire.com/?qj4fn868atrbofw

I'd be more than happy to record something again with all the amp controls at 12 O'clock if it helps a diagnosis.

As for mic placement, Right now I have the mic pointing at the diaphragm right next to the cone. Keep in mind it's not actually pointed at the cone at all but the edge of the 57 is pointed right next to the cone.

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I do have to admit that the tone is much better with the new guitar...
 
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I read a long time ago, probably here somewhere, that the usual best spot for a 57 was right at the edge of the speaker, on the cloth, pointing toward the center. It's always worked for me.

As far as tone - I'm not into that style but it sounds "okay". I have no idea what you are looking for but if it's a typical album sound you gotta remember that all that shit is at least double-tracked. Makes a huge difference.


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Kingofpain678 said:
Well my speaker cable arrived (oddly in only two days). I have my cab hooked up using the proper cable, I've got my new guitar plugged into my amp... This is what came out: http://www.mediafire.com/?2fmku1b3rc3bjkl
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You weren't expecting the speaker cable to make a difference to the tone, were you? The reason you don't use instrument cables to drive speakers is that they aren't designed to carry high voltages and can short out and damage your amp.
 
Point the mic straight at the speaker instead of the angle you have it.

Point it at where the cone meets the dust cap. (the cone is the whole thing that moves, the dust cap is the round thing in the middle) If that is too bright for you, move the mic an inch away from the dust cap. Still too bright, move it farther away from the dust cap.

Go ahead and post another example the way you have the amp set. Just don't do any processing to it.
 
ggunn said:
You weren't expecting the speaker cable to make a difference to the tone, were you? The reason you don't use instrument cables to drive speakers is that they aren't designed to carry high voltages and can short out and damage your amp.
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no. As I had mentioned in a previous post, I was using an instrument cables that had a bad connection in it somewhere so I wasn't getting any sound at all.

I bought a proper speaker cable, fired up my amp and plugged in my new guitar.
 
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Point the mic straight at the speaker instead of the angle you have it.

Point it at where the cone meets the dust cap. (the cone is the whole thing that moves, the dust cap is the round thing in the middle) If that is too bright for you, move the mic an inch away from the dust cap. Still too bright, move it farther away from the dust cap.

Go ahead and post another example the way you have the amp set. Just don't do any processing to it.
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I'll give it a shot. This (http://www.mediafire.com/?qj4fn868atrbofw) is the unprocessed version of the track I had recorded earlier. I was able to find the original un-altered track so I threw it on media fire for you all to enjoy :p

I'll change the mic positioning and throw up another clip here in the next 30 mins or so
 
There is nothing wrong with that at all. If that isn't the tone you want, that's one thing, but there is nothing wrong with that. Double track it, add some bass and drums, a little EQ and you are good to go.
 
Farview said:
There is nothing wrong with that at all. If that isn't the tone you want, that's one thing, but there is nothing wrong with that. Double track it, add some bass and drums, a little EQ and you are good to go.
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Sounded alright to me.... Esp. with the low and Hi pass filters... Maybe a little less gain.

You're not hearing any phase issues?
 
You really can't have phase issues with one mic. It might just be the sound of the speakers. Are they broken in yet?
 
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You really can't have phase issues with one mic. It might just be the sound of the speakers. Are they broken in yet?
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yep.

I'm planning on buying just 1 V30 and replacing one of the speakers in my cab with it. Hopefully that will make things sound even better
 
Kingofpain678 said:
As for mic placement, Right now I have the mic pointing at the diaphragm right next to the cone. Keep in mind it's not actually pointed at the cone at all but the edge of the 57 is pointed right next to the cone.
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do you spot mic placement by moving side-to-side to-and-fro and listen or are you spotting mic position by sight?

as for a V30, I wouldn't buy one unless your amp is suited. It can be an awesome speaker with the right head and sound like ass with the wrong head. Any friends with a V30 cab you could try?
 
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Just ftr,

Now that I go back and listen to that tone some more I have to say that I'm pretty damn happy with my guitar sound :D:D:D
That's a first for me eh? I can't wait to start recording some stuff as soon as I finish my "studio renovation".

Hooray for acoustic treatment!
 
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