Hey Tyler657...

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NOTE: I've posted part of this already in response to a thread. If the redundancy pisses anyone off, well...
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Tyler,

Listen youngblood, you're on the right path. My suggestion to you is that you:

a) Clearly define your budget.
b) Clearly define your needs in catagories
such as: sound creation (including mics, and mic-pres)
sequencing issues (if you're electronic musician)
recording options/requirements
input/mixing requirements/options
soundproofing/sound treatment requirements
oh, and don't forget nearfield monitors

I'm probably not the best at spec'ing out shit like this, but I'm sure it's a logical, and not-so-unwieldy step in the right direction. There are surely others who post on this forum who can far better address how to do these kinds of things besides me. Since you're basically starting from scratch, why don't you let us know what you (think) you can spend, and what your needs are regarding the items I mentioned above. Trust me when I tell you that it'll make your adventure much more enjoyable, and make it lots easier for those that are willing to offer their two cents to hone in on things that are realistically applicable for your situation.

After you get some responses, goto your local music store and dazzle the sales rep with your newly-acquired knowledge and sense of direction. You'll be surprised at how different his/her approach is towards you. He won't waste your time with shit that truly isn't applicable to your situation (cuz you won't let him, RIGHT?!?!?), and you'll be able to ask about and check out specific pieces and their comparable competition.

Knowing you've got 10grand, or 8, or 20 (for example) to spend will DEFINATELY affect what you should even BOTHER to check out, as well as how we can help you in your quest for your studio nirvana.

Then, when you've got questions about mics, boards & features, and whatever else, they'll be more pointed (but less POINTY), and we'll all respect you more as a young, hotshot on the come-up.

Again,

good luck.

Oh, and one more word of advice... don't try to impress anyone with your knowledge of whatever, everybody here seems to be smart enough to know better, or at least know the difference. If people didn't like you (well, your online presence), then by now you'd be getting NO responses. And one last thing, be cool, stay in school.

Flo' Dolo
 
Alrighty then,

I need a garage studio that will work for just about anything. From Rock, to pop, to church music. And I am now planning on about 12K.

Here's what I have so far...

2000 for a computer, whichever I get
869 for 1 A&H Mixwizard 16
552 each for Mackie HR824's
800 for a Sytek MPX-4ii Preamp
438 for a JoeMeek VC1Qcs Pre
600 for Peavey VMP2 Tube Pre
2 Delta 1010's - 520 each
Shure KSM32/sl - 491
Neumann TLM103 - 650
3 Shure SM57's - 74.62 Each
2 Shure SM58's - 94.33 Each
3 Marshall MXL 603's - 69.35
1 Marhsall MXL 2001 - Free
AT Pro 25 Kick Mic - 103.38
Lexicon MPX500 - 338.55
Lexicon MPX500 Version 2 Software Upgrade - 72
2 FMR Audio RNC's - 154.99 each
1 Faceplate - 50
Cakewalk Sonar 2.0XL - 249
Antares Auto Tune DirectX Plugin - 199.99
Construction - 300
Acoustic Treatment - 600
Wiring - 300

This is what I need my computer to work with, and how much money I have budgeted. So tell me what you think I need.

This is the computer I've planned so far...

Soyo P4ISR Intel P4 Socket 478 Motherboard w/ Raid and SCSI Reader - 135
Pentium 4 2.2 GHZ - 228.67
Leadmen Elec. USA ATX Case - 64.99
3Com 10/100 Ethernet Card - 25.02
2 ViewSonic 15" LCD Panel - VG150 - 355.62 each
2 IBM 7200 RPM 120GB Hard Drives - 137.69 each
Plextor 40x12x40x CD-RW - 126.50
PNY Verto NviDia GEForce4 Ti4400 Video Card - 218.09
Artec 16x DVD-Rom Drive - 49.99
512 MB RD-Ram (rambus) PC800 - 166
1.44 MB Floppy - 17.99
 
That helps me why? I already have all the tools. We're converting my garage into a "playroom". I'm gonna build a 6x5 foot isolation booth with the 300. My parents are paying for the rest, including the electrical. The control room/area(in my case) will be on the outside of this area, and will be acoustically treated, but not enclosed.

I already know how to do electrical, and insulation, and framing, and all about all the tools, and everything you just told me. So... it was a waste of your time, and is somewhat insulting to me. I learned all that stuff during the time in my life when I wanted to be an architect (10 - 13ish). I bought all the tools, and learned a lot. I couldn't build a skyscraper, but I can frame, and build birdhouses and shit like that.
 
Can't see the forest for the trees, boy...

Tyler, Tyler, Tyler... If you can't see beyond your own damn ego and attitude then you DO deserve some help, but i'm not willing to be your shrink or "friend" or whatever who offers it.

c7sus was just pointing out a (subjective) flaw in your plan, and THAT my man, is just what you need - FEEDBACK. That's why I suggested you post as much info as you could about your situation. How the f*ck do we know you're a carpentry king? And for that matter, why should we believe you? If i'm not mistaken, you tried to fool everyone already with your screen name and bogus-assed uninformative answers to everybody's questions.

You wrote: That helps my why...? I already know how to do electrical, and insulation, and framing, and all about all the tools, and everything you just told me. So... it was a waste of your time, and is somewhat insulting to me. I learned all that stuff during the time in my life when I wanted to be an architect (10 - 13ish). I bought all the tools, and learned a lot. I couldn't build a skyscraper, but I can frame, and build birdhouses and shit like that."

Damn, man... It was a waste of his time trying to help you? YOU feel insulted? What about the guy who offered himself to you just so you could dog his ass out? You see no insult in that?

You're supposed to take all this info with a grain of salt and make the best decisions you can based that info. You're a cocky kid, but I doubt you can back it up.I'm cocky, too, but more than once in my life, especially at your age, it got me nowhere but on my ass with some guy towering over me. And I can most def tho' dem thangs. I guess you go to school in smallville or dawson's creek or something like that. Man, I'm sorry I got a bit heated with you, but it looks like you don't care to be nice to the folks who are trying to be nice to you. Should I be worried (about my fragile sensibilities) if I post anything trying to help you sort out your problem? I'm not telling you that you should change who you are, but you really shouldn't bite the hand that feeds you. I've got your sketch in mind, I'll post some info for you a bit later regarding your possible set-up, I've gotta get back to work now (see how you can easily fuck-off valuable time/resources by being a little prick?).

C'mon little man, we're trying to help you.

Flo' Dolo
 
I don't mind the help, I just didn't ask for advice in the carpentry area.
 
tyler657recpro said:
I don't mind the help, I just didn't ask for advice in the carpentry area.
Tyler.... you precocious little prick........... Stop being a little shit and show some manners........

A fuckin' birdhouse or box that you built in grade 7 shop is a little different than a goddamn studio!!!!!!!!!

And cut the bullshit about being an architect at 10-13.......... at 10 years of age, you knew even less than you do now - and even now, that isn't a whole helluva lot......... :rolleyes:

Fuck.......... do I have to email your mother to get her to teach you some respect?!?!?

Gimme a fuckin' break...............

:rolleyes:
 
Tyler, I need to put in an isolation booth. How much gap between the upright frame pieces can I get away with? I've also got a slanted floor in the garage and I want to have the floor on the booth be level. Any suggestions?
 
Well fine then. I'll just ask for help and keep my rude comments to myself and laugh foolishly behind your backs. Then I don't have to admit it if I'm ever wrong. I send mixed messages don't I?
 
tyler657recpro said:
Nope, I build birdhouses, not ISO booths

Yo' MaryTYLERPro, what type of diffusers did U use in your booth?
Will it be used for voc's only ? What materials did U use in the construction of same? Annnnd, can u kindly inform me as to how 15 yr old can afford 12k for gear,etc.? Hi-payin', after-skool job?
Illegal enterprises? Day-trading on-line? Ma/Pa hook-up?
Son, u better off savin' that money for your college edjumacation!
Expand your mind b-4 you expunge the dollars!

Peace
Mr.Q
 
tyler657recpro said:
Well fine then. I'll just ask for help and keep my rude comments to myself and laugh foolishly behind your backs.?

Yes Tyler, that called common courtesy. When someone tries to help you out in a situation like this, you just say "Thanks for the advise, but I have that covered because of blah blah blah" Get rid of the chip on your shoulder man, nobody on this board has any idea what you know. You could be Norm Abrams himself, or you could be totally clueless. As we get to know you, we will get an idea of what you know and dont know. If you had politely said, yeah, I'm kind of into woodworking, so I have that covered, then everybody would know that, but as it stand now you just showed everybody that you are arragant and ungratefull. Because of that
  • People will be less likely to help you out when you do need an answer
  • Others will add you to thier ignore list, so you wont be able to pass on what you do know
  • People who dont will think your an imature kid, and wont show you any respect.

It NEVER pays to be rude to people. It never makes you look better, or more knowledgeable, or more mature. It can ownly hurt you.
 
Haven't you said that before?

...assuming that question was directed to me....

I've said it many times. I dunno if I've "said" it here before....

Queue
 
Bdgr said:
You could be Norm Abrams himself, or you could be totally clueless.
Care to take a guess which option I'm betting on???? ;)

:D
 
Patchbays and snakes for cableing{balanced}....How many points do you need?Audio{mic/line} snake for the "tracking" room{8} It gets expensive.. how you want to configure your rig..If you use middle grade wire at least..Could cost between 5 and 10 percent of the value of your studio by the time all is said and done..also you need a headphones and headphone amp for the "talent"..its the little crap that adds up right down to the dam chair..LOL!Good luck


Don
 
Yeah, I know, I hate it!!!! Well, I've used close to 11K of my budgeted 12K and I still have to get an ok cd-player, a rack, and patchbay. And then there's all those damn connectors. They're only 3 or 5 bucks each, but when you multiply that time a hundred or so, damn, thats all I can say.
 
Blue Bear Sound said:
Tyler.... you precocious little prick........... Stop being a little shit and show some manners........

A fuckin' birdhouse or box that you built in grade 7 shop is a little different than a goddamn studio!!!!!!!!!

And cut the bullshit about being an architect at 10-13.......... at 10 years of age, you knew even less than you do now - and even now, that isn't a whole helluva lot......... :rolleyes:

Fuck.......... do I have to email your mother to get her to teach you some respect?!?!?

Gimme a fuckin' break...............

:rolleyes:
AFter coming onto this board, ive learn so much i can't even believe it. Do you know why i've learned so much tyler? Cause i read everything i can, i acknowledge the fact i don't know shit, and that most people on here know more than me. And if they dont' know more, they probably still can give me some advice and help me out. RESPECT, i repect people who respect me, and its workin out well. One thing ive learned is Blue Bear is almost always right and he doesn't beat around the bush. Take his words to heart son, shut the $%$# up, and goddamn listen to what people are telling you. Cause no matter what kind of ego trip you've gotten yourself on, no matter how much money your parents give you, and no matter how special they tell you you are, your only 15 and you don't know shit. I know this, because at 18, i listen a lot, i learn a lot, i consider myself to be a relativly intelligent person, and above all i realize i know shit. And that makes me want to learn more, and i keep reading and learning, with enthusiasm. Why the hell would you go onto a message board asking questions if you know everything.
Bottom line your arrogance and just plain stupidity makes me very angry.
WAKE UP!
 
tyler657recpro said:
Well fine then. I'll just ask for help and keep my rude comments to myself and laugh foolishly behind your backs. Then I don't have to admit it if I'm ever wrong. I send mixed messages don't I?
Man what the fuck's wrong with you. I can see being snotty if someone's been an ass to you. But at the beginning of this thread
Flo took the time to write a fairly time consuming post in an effort to try and answer your question and to help. Even if he missed the points you were trying to ask about, he took the time to try. That certainly deserves politeness if nothing else. And as for laughing behind our backs, why? Is it 'cause you think it's funny that some one would be stupid enough to try and be helpful? I know it can't be 'cause you think you know more than all of us. If you do, then what the hell are you doing here? I seem to remember trying to reason with you before so maybe this is a waste of time but............it's really not necessary to have an attitude at everyone in the world and in the long run you'll regret it. Believe that if you wish or ignore it. Whatever floats your boat.
 
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