Here's Your Big Chance To TOTALLY Diss A Famous Guitarist

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Supercreep said:
I think he's boring
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Really? He strikes me the opposite way. :confused:

I'm most familiar with his Audioslave work. I don't necessarily like everything he plays but it's quite often not what your ears are expecting - my ears, anyway.

I haven't gotten familiar with the Nightwatchman stuff.
 
The last time I engaged in a discussion about "over-rated" guitarists was some years ago -- I sincerely said that, of all prominent guitarists, Jerry Garcia never failed to strike me as the most egregious, aimless noodler out there, and that he couldn't play an actual song to save his soul.

It's probably unnecessary to add that I caught Billy Hell for daring to criticize such an icon of modern Americana.

Since then I've found more useful ways to spend my time.
 
lpdeluxe said:
The last time I engaged in a discussion about "over-rated" guitarists was some years ago -- I sincerely said that, of all prominent guitarists, Jerry Garcia never failed to strike me as the most egregious, aimless noodler out there, and that he couldn't play an actual song to save his soul.

It's probably unnecessary to add that I caught Billy Hell for daring to criticize such an icon of modern Americana.

Since then I've found more useful ways to spend my time.
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Well, you're right about Garcia - he was an inveterate noodler. A really good noodler, though. I always felt the endless noodling was more the byproduct of the Dead's insistence on stretching every fucking song out to 25 minutes - hell, if Garcia was playing at least no one was singing. :eek:
 
Zaphod B said:
Well, you're right about Garcia - he was an inveterate noodler. A really good noodler, though. I always felt the endless noodling was more the byproduct of the Dead's insistence on stretching every fucking song out to 25 minutes - hell, if Garcia was playing at least no one was singing. :eek:
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Something to that, too. I lived in Mendocino, CA in the early '70s -- the heyday of the Dead. I was something of a pariah because I didn't like them...except for Ripple, which was a radio hit in the area.

Unfortunately for that song, a friend and I decided to cover that in a duo we had back in the mid-90s. I got as far as transcribing the lyrics. It was the same hippy-dippy dreck that they peddled in all their other songs. I haven't been able to listen to that song since -- which essentially means that I haven't listened to any Dead songs since.
 
lpdeluxe said:
Something to that, too. I lived in Mendocino, CA in the early '70s -- the heyday of the Dead. I was something of a pariah because I didn't like them...except for Ripple, which was a radio hit in the area.

Unfortunately for that song, a friend and I decided to cover that in a duo we had back in the mid-90s. I got as far as transcribing the lyrics. It was the same hippy-dippy dreck that they peddled in all their other songs. I haven't been able to listen to that song since -- which essentially means that I haven't listened to any Dead songs since.
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I never did get the Dead, either. Everything out of tune, vocal caterwauling, mindless musical rambling.......no thanks!
 
Piling on...
I don't get the Dead either,they're the Paris Hiltons of music.
 
I'd like to add Ron Wood. A boring turd who is more of a Stones' accessory than a guitarist.
I thought he did a shit hot solo on "Hand Of Fate" off the "Black and Blue" album and then found out it wasn't even him.

The Clapton "woman tone"? Because plays like a fucking sissy. Nothing to do with tone.
 
neil young... don't know if he's been mentioned yet, so this may be a pile on, but i

heard southern man on the radio yesterday and thought of this thread,

sheesh, guy plays liked a handicapped third grader.
 
wow...my personal slam faves have already been taken. Allow me to pile-on both Jimmy Page and Yngwie. (And I DO realize that they both play better than me, but that's not saying much...Roguetitan's cat probably plays better than me.) I just don't get why Zep has remained so popular. (Of course, my failure to understand may have something to do with the fact that I'm a guy...my lead guitarist borderline worships Plant and Page, largely, AFAICT, because she's a chick.)

As for Hendrix...when he PLAYED, he was excellent; too often though, the solos just descended into the arena of noise.

I have to agree with Dave Mustaine's thoughts on nu-metal: Tuning your guitar down and beating the shite out of it is NOT music!!

My fave guitarist is probably Bob Hartman from Petra, but that may be as much for his writing as for his playing.

sorry...can't think of anyone new to slam; can't believe no one's picked up on the Guitar World article from a couple years back and mentioned Poison's C.C. DeVille. (lord, i hope i'm remembering that name right. :P)
 
pinkieandtherev said:
wow...my personal slam faves have already been taken. Allow me to pile-on both Jimmy Page and Yngwie. (And I DO realize that they both play better than me, but that's not saying much...Roguetitan's cat probably plays better than me.) I just don't get why Zep has remained so popular. (Of course, my failure to understand may have something to do with the fact that I'm a guy...my lead guitarist borderline worships Plant and Page, largely, AFAICT, because she's a chick.)

As for Hendrix...when he PLAYED, he was excellent; too often though, the solos just descended into the arena of noise.

I have to agree with Dave Mustaine's thoughts on nu-metal: Tuning your guitar down and beating the shite out of it is NOT music!!

My fave guitarist is probably Bob Hartman from Petra, but that may be as much for his writing as for his playing.

sorry...can't think of anyone new to slam; can't believe no one's picked up on the Guitar World article from a couple years back and mentioned Poison's C.C. DeVille. (lord, i hope i'm remembering that name right. :P)
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Petra???!!! Second time in my life I've heard them mentioned. A friend gave me a disc of theirs he swore by, but I couldn't really see any appeal to them.
 
VomitHatSteve said:
Can we nominate bassists? They're kind of like guitarists.

As the bassist in a church band, I nominate the bassist from U2. (There are chord progressions than D A Bm G and rhythm patterns other than straight 1/8th notes!)
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o boy...

absolutely love U2. Edge is not as much a guitarist as he is an experimenter. The effects make the music, in their case. All the tube-boys whining about tone...and you don't get that the effects are what MAKE Edge's tone??

**just finished relistening to the Charlie Spears Sonlight U2 Easter show (Sonlight was a Christian rock show late night on the local AOR station; every year for Easter, he read the story of Christ's crucifixion and resurrection (and no, no flame wars here, please...) with the music of U2 interspersed)...and was floored at how cool some of the little-known back catalog is. Once you get beyond "Pride", "I Still Haven't Found" and "Where the Streets Have No Name" (all of which I love anyway), there are some great tones to be found.**
 
pinkieandtherev said:
...my lead guitarist borderline worships Plant and Page, largely, AFAICT, because she's a chick.)
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This only proves that chicks:
- should not be allowed to drive
- should not be allowed to vote
- should not be allowed out of the kitchen
- should not be allowed to play guitar.

Which reminds me-Lita Ford is a pretty toneless player.
 
didgijimmy said:
Petra???!!! Second time in my life I've heard them mentioned. A friend gave me a disc of theirs he swore by, but I couldn't really see any appeal to them.
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I can respect that. As far as musical stylings go, they really haven't contributed a lot to the genre, other than being one of the first Christian rock bands to get any kind of real distribution (formed in 1972, first album in 1974, retired in 2005.)

I have never failed to be floored by Bob's lyrics though.

Of course, I grew up on them, so I've never really quit liking them. Their best stuff is probably mid-'80s, IMO... _This Means War!_ is one that we wore the tape out on.
 
Mark Tremonti (Creed). All of that equipment and rack BS for a standard rock tone...:rolleyes:
 
Also, Jeff Beck and Nigel Tufnel. Great guitarists, but the hair is bad I can't even listen to them :p
 
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