Here's my OWN song for a change

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It has come to this. I can no longer escape. I posted my own composition for the first time. No covers this time. I decided, that I don't want to fiddle with this song any more, so I'll just post it. My songs never seem to finish, so I'll force it this time. Be as brutal as you want. Now it's your chance to crush me :)

I really hope the link works now:



And remember: Be brutal.
 
Damn! I hate when that happens! I think it's because somebody has downloaded the song, so nobody can download it for a while, because the website has some kind of bandwith limit. It really sucks to have a geocities homepage.
 
crankster...here are my thoughts.

the intro stuff has a nice tone to it, but it appears I hear a few clams(like miss hit notes) and some conflicting harmonies. The intro is just kinda there for an intro's sake, it seems. At 0:34, is where I might have started the song, as the playing, music, ...is much more solid. Then when it kicks in, around the one minute mark, is where this song friggin takes off. I love it!!!!! Great drum and gtr sound to me. Nice writing too. The leads that you sprout on top, have a nice unique tone that also cuts thru the rhy gtrs just great. The song is only seeming to get better as it goes on. I think the rhythm guitars are actually stronger (in execution, drive, writing...etc) than the lead guitars however. You need some really killer leads to put on such a strong base. The leads at 4:18..and then more so at 4:30 (with the harmonies)are much better suited than the previous leads, and sound best to me...but they end so soon..:( . The ending relates good back to your intro, and has a snazzy ending riff, but if you ditch the first 34 seconds as I would do, it would probably still fit too, structure wise.
You've got some good gtr chops, and a great sound. So...my main gripes are the intro, and some [fresh, never been heard, completely fantastic, mind blowing, technically insane, tromps all other guitar players, tone to die for]leads that might work better.
oh...also glad to see you doing YOUR own stuff. great job, cranks..;)
 
Metal Alert!!!!

prepare for brutality,

I figure I owe you as much of a detailed response as I can give after the numerous beat downs I recieved from you!!:D

First, CRANKIN' TUNE CRANKY ONE!!! It sounds really good, the song, and the guitar playing are all very good. There are a lot of great parts in this tune......I had to sound the Metal Alert immediately!!! If this tune were put up by someone else I couldn't find fault with any of it, BUT since it's you I'm looking extra hard......It really is an excellent tune.....

In the intro, the clean guitar sounds like the playing is a bit rough....but I mean I'm really forcing that out, and probably wouldn't have noticed if not looking for something wrong..I really can't be brutal about anything because it sounds waaaayyy better then my stuff and it's a great tune.....'Trooper' inspired at around 4:40.......very cool..

I'll have to get back to this later...that groove at 3:00 is 'Too Much!'

Bottom line............Kick Ass!!!:cool:


WOW! It took me soo long to type this after hearing it a few times......... mixmkr beat me to it!:D
 
Well............. You all know this isn't my genre.... but I felt like gettin up and kickin someone in the face and handin a brutal beat down.....but now more serious......

The lead guitar (although is blaring some awesome riffs) misses a note/key in the beginning here & there but fixes the problem as the song goes on...... from 1:08 on I got no beefs and would even by this shit and I don't buy anything.............
 
yeah sabb...you're just slow on the draw...maybe you outta just stick to 3/4 ballads from now on....:D :D

Anyway...I think we should both gang up on the crankster, and make him (her?) tell us what he uses equipment wise....eh?
I'd like to know, and I can't see behind my monitor to see what kind of guitar is being played.
 
Thanks for the replies:

About that intro, I was going for an epic thing with a buildup. I never was that happy with the intro anyway. The acoustic intro you heard was put together a few minutes before the final mix. I had a slightly different one before, which was even worse. I had a bit hard time playing the intro, even if it sounds pretty simple. I acknowledge the weakness of the leads. I really couldn't come up with anything personal, so I just ended up doing something. The lead at 4:18, which you (mixmkr) liked, was another thing I did just before the final mixdown. I had this song lying around about two weeks after I decided I had to finally do something about it.

The song composition was pretty experimental. I just combined lots of riffs I came up within a month or so. I tried to make a song that wasn't the usual verse-chorus-verse-chorus thing. It has about 8 different riffs. I admit that some of the riffs might be, what you call a "dead riff", but I'm pretty happy with the results. The solos are a thing I'm usually paying more attention to. This time I didn't come up with any good ones. I think I'll change the solos one of these days. Thanks for the comments :)

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gec- You were commenting my playing, and I know I'm pretty awful player. The song seems like its played well, because it's made piece by piece. When I get a good take, I'll loop it :)

Equipment is simple. A cheap "Epiphone by Gibson" guitar, plugged into a $100 Zoom505-II, which is then plugged into computer. Then I record the stuff into Sonar. In sonar, I use Revalver with the guitar tracks. The drums and bass are midi. Apply some effects / eq with the tracks, then do a mixdown. Clean the possible subsonic rumbles with CoolEdit. Do some hard-limiting, if necessary, and it's finished.

And, to quote Diamondhead: "I am man, yes I am."

(and this ain't no april's fool :) )
 
CrankyOne said:
Equipment is simple. A cheap "Epiphone by Gibson" guitar, plugged into a $100 Zoom505-II, which is then plugged into computer.....
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which, IMO, goes to show you, the fingers have more control over the sound than the equipment. (so sabbath..you can keep all your shitty guitars!!)
 
CrankyOne said:
The drums and bass are midi.
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too vague...too vague....:( incomplete answer....go back to "GO"...don't collect $200...
 
OK :)

If I remember correctly, the bass was stolen from some soundfont, I don't remember which one, right now. The drums are combined from various soundfonts, and edited somewhat. So, they are a modified drumkit. I tracked them with Sonar. I've never been into fruityloops. Enough info ? :)
 
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OK :)

If I remember correctly, the bass stolen from some soundfont, I don't remember which one, right now. The drums are combined from various soundfonts, and edited somewhat. So, they are a modified drumkit. I tracked them with Sonar. I've never been into fruityloops. Enough info ? :)
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no...not really...but that's ok...;) I'll let Bsabbath do the next prying...cause I know he wants another stomp box...
afterall...his J-station is only about 50 hours old now....time for a adding another sound to the pallette. but...I don't think he'll buy a zoom 505. :D crank...you suck with your cheap equipment and great sound...you jerkwad!!:D (jus kiddin', of course)
 
Yeah, that's the good thing about using computers. You can customise your sounds more freely. That is, if you know how to use them, of course :) My soundfont wouldn't be much use without the computer, you know. Oh dear, I've got to catch some Z's, or I'll never wake up early enough to catch Oz.
 
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Cool tune. Great guitar sound. The drums are very convincing. I thought it might be a real kit and I'm picky about that kind of stuff. Mikey likes it.:D
 
mixmkr said:

which, IMO, goes to show you, the fingers have more control over the sound than the equipment. (so sabbath..you can keep all your shitty guitars!!)
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:D yeah!!!

Cranky One, this tune Cranks!!!! No doubt!! First class job!
The computer must be helping a lot...I really should look in to using my computer for more than just posting my stupidity....I'm not good with computers at all though:confused:

There are differences between this and 'Tyrant' though...

What were the differences in recording????

And your quote "I am man , yes I am" I guess Diamonhead wrote "Am I evil"?????:D
 
raise the fist of the metal child!

The intro was killing me... a few parts felt out of tune... although it could just be the chorusy effect with the note choices. Very Master of Puppets/Battery-ish.

Then we get into the meat of the song and things start getting good. Nice basic early 90s crunch happening there, clean and tight, just the way it ought to be. Drums are good and tight, mixed nicely in the mix, although I would have liked a little more energy and playing to them... but then you run into the trouble of it sounding drum-machiney, which these don't.

The leads didn't seem to jump out of the mix much, sounded buried. I liked the playing on them, they were nice and memorable, rather than notes for notes sake, it would have been nice to hear them more out front a little though.

All in all, I liked it alot, although it came across more like a karoake track, instead of a pure instrumental. But mix and recording wise it was great!
 
B.SABBATH said:


The computer must be helping a lot...I really should look in to using my computer for more than just posting my stupidity....


Yeah, the computer helps, but it also has some disadvantages. Like, it's too easy to keep changing the song forever and ever, and it's kinda hard to see, when it's finished. But it's nice when you can write the song as you're recording.


There are differences between this and 'Tyrant' though...

What were the differences in recording????


As I remember, 'Tyrant' was tracked using Cakewalk 9, and this song was with Sonar. Not much difference there. Different effects settings and drum kit.


And your quote "I am man , yes I am" I guess Diamonhead wrote "Am I evil"?????:D

Yeah, they sure did. That quote was just because mixmkr was pondering, wheter I am a he or a she. :)
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Re: raise the fist of the metal child!

NobleSavage said:
The intro was killing me... a few parts felt out of tune... although it could just be the chorusy effect with the note choices. Very Master of Puppets/Battery-ish.



Yeah, I noticed that afterwards. I tend to mimic other bands subconciously somehow. I guess it's the influence. I'm starting to think the acoustic intro part should be ditched, because it sounds a bit too cheesy, or at least badly played.


Drums are good and tight, mixed nicely in the mix, although I would have liked a little more energy and playing to them... but then you run into the trouble of it sounding drum-machiney, which these don't.


I know. The problems usually is, that the more I make the drums upfront, the more easily you can tell it ain't a real drummer :)


The leads didn't seem to jump out of the mix much, sounded buried. I liked the playing on them, they were nice and memorable, rather than notes for notes sake, it would have been nice to hear them more out front a little though.


I tend to bury the solos, since I'm very insecure about my playing in that area. I need lots of practice. I try to come up with something personal, but in some songs it's really hard to write anything fitting there.


All in all, I liked it alot, although it came across more like a karoake track, instead of a pure instrumental. But mix and recording wise it was great!

Ok, I can definately understand it sounds a bit like a karaoke song :). Some parts sound indeed, that the need some singing in them. I agree. I just haven't written any lyrics ever, nor have I sung. I also don't have a good mic. Just a microphone, that came with the soundcard (which is terrible). And another problem in the vocal area is, that the room I record in, is also the room my little brother plays his computer all the time. It's kinda hard trying to sing, when you hear laughter :). Not that I can sing, anyway.
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CRANKY-cool tune!

i hear some megadeath influence..... this tune works as an instrumental, but a vocal line would work as well.......yes, the opening section has some obvious missed notes, and i would have gone back and redone that section.... but that's the only place where i hear funkiness, i'm suprised you left that in.....EVERYTHING ELSE is nice and tight.....the drum programming is well done, i like the double kicks that go along with certain rhythm sections.....
rhythm guitar has a nice crunchy tone..... with the solo sections smoother in contrast...
i like the counterpoint on the bass parts..... that's a real strong point, you should go there more often....
did you say this is all done through a zoom? hmmm.......
yes, this sound definitely has a old-school metal vibe to it....... it's the sound of the rhythm guitar..... it has a crunchy mid, rolled off bass, and fairly flat high end....
i like the trick ending. the clean guitar reminds me of the "nothing else matters" metallica tune.....
good playing, good mix.
 
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