heres a clip of my raw drums

[skiz]

ive tried the recorder man method and found it came out pretty much the same as this overhead technique, didnt find it too special.

as for my cymbals... yeah i know ive had poor technique which has gotten somewhat better since destroying these cymbals. but when practicing i get so into it that my technique flies out the window and im bouncing around like a mad man. unfortunately i really cant afford new cymbals and these are what im stuck with.

 

[Yonce N Mild]

Moving out of the corner or putting the mattress behind you as someone else suggested might help a bit. You may be picking up some reflections on those overheads.

 

[Greg_L]

ive tried the recorder man method and found it came out pretty much the same as this overhead technique, didnt find it too special.
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I think you may need to re-visit it and pay closer attention to the mic placements. I personally think it may be the most forgiving O/H setup if you're using a less-than-great room.

 

[RAMI]

ive tried the recorder man method and found it came out pretty much the same as this overhead technique, didnt find it too special.

You must have overlooked something or done something wrong. Because, regardless of weather you like it or not, it should at least sound DIFFERENT than your basic set-up. If it sounds the same, you didn't do it right.

 

[Fooling Pirates]

great stuff to work with

It seems that most of the advice you are getting is to alter your mic placement in order to get the "ultimate" recording.

I don't see it that way. You have great sounds to work with.

You are attempting a studio recording, not a live mix.

As long as your kick and snare are on individual tracks, you can pull back the snare and pump up the kick.

As far as your overheads go, I can't really hear the toms! Room Mics?

Overheads and Room mics are crucial to recording cymbals and toms when individual mics are not available. They are also the key element to creating a full stereo, or 3D feel to your drums, regardless of dedicated mics.

Seeing as your cymbals are not top notch, and the absence room mics, the overheads and their placement aren't realizing their full potential.

I like to eq my overheads to capture the cymbals and let my room mics grab the toms. All in stereo, with the kick and snare separately mic'd straight up the center.

As long as you get good line levels recorded, which you seem to have, you can mix it properly.