Have u ever used a weird recording technique

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Well here i go asking for something weird you have already or plan to do on your recording....have u ever used some weird solution to record (like using your amp under water.....:D:D) and have achieved some crazy sounds or you just do the usual things.

Are u planning any weird technique ?

Anything goes....and i guess the fact that most of us dont have the perfect environments.....to record...sometimes we can achieve weird things......:)
 
When I tiled our loo at home, I put two clocks in there, facing each other. When people ask me why, I say 'One is for blokes, one is for females'. They tick tock out of sync with each other but every few months, they tick totally in sync. I decided that for this song I was working on, I'd record them ticking together for about ten minutes and use that as a crude sort of click ! But I'd fade it in and out of the song on final mix. So I set up two condensers in the loo and recorded them. They were OK, but they were picking up the sound of my son talking downstairs and buses going past the house a good 500 yards away !

Another thing I've liked doing is this; when recording backing vocals, especially when there's just two or three people singing, I'll double, treble or quadruple track, depending on how many tracks I had available. But I'd make use of varispeed so each pass was tracked at a different speed and therefore in a different key. Really encourages versatility. But in some cases, I'd take it further. To avoid just doing "Ooohs", "Aaaahs" or "Laaaas", I'd get each vocalist to sing an actual word, each a different word each time on each track or we'd each sing the same word but sing a different word on the double track, another on the treble track, etc. When all crunched together, you'd get this incredible effect of 2, 3 or 4 people sounding like 20 singers and the melodic run of the backing vocal but no intelligible words, just this incredible vocal power.

I've been somewhat experimental {some would say just mental !} over the years. I remember once filling five bottles with different measures of water and using that as pitched percussion or doing likewise with a pot and as the water swirled around, hitting the pot and getting pitched sounds, but really weird spacey percussion.

Or running a teacup up and down the strings of the bass and getting some novel sounds that way or playing a 12 string electro acoustic guitar {plugged into a bass amp} with a fork. Wicked sound. Man, those chords ring.

Once I played the electric guitar with a battery. I worked out the chord sequence of the part, then split each chord into it's individual notes and tracked each note by banging the string in different places with the battery. Tracked it three or four times and then bounced the whole result together and it was wonderful. Sounded like really fast unearthly playing. I record for fun and joy with no intention of ever playing this stuff live so I can afford to do things that I'd never have to do on stage.
 
For recording guitar, I've got a Marshall 4X12 cabinet and I decided to try and mic each speaker. 4 mic's = two stereo channels. With various effects and EQ settings, it sounded fantastic...... Once! I got lucky that first time with no phase issues but have never been able to duplicate mic placement since then. Predictable I know but I had to try.:o

Also, as I play bass for my songs but don't have a "proper" bass amp & cab, I play it through my Peavey 5150 and Marshall cab and with the right settings, it records fantastic. Not as much power at the low end but that's OK. It's quite snappy overall. I love it.:D

Never thought of putting my amp out in the pool though....:eek:
 
-Once I put a mic in the washing machine and left the door open to the drum booth to try to get a weird reverb-y ambiance.

-I've recorded a guitar power chord one note at a time in different places on the neck, each note to its own track.

-Ive used a contact mic clipped to anything form one of my wife's soup pots to a piece of masonite. I then put a speaker in front of whatever the mic was clipped to and routed an Aux send to the speaker and used it as a type of reverb. TOTALLY wild sound! :eek:
 
No, I have never used any kind of "weird" recording setup that I can think of. I have never found a need or a purpose for doing so, to be honest.

I have used some analog gear in unconventional ways to generate unique sounds in the past, but when it comes to how I recorded them, the basics have always worked just fine for me.

For me, recording "normally" well is enough of a challenge and a skill to fill one's lifetime getting right; making it that much more complicated by pursuing "weird" ways of doing it is just piling on IMHO.

G.
 
Like, Wow, man.

Another one that springs to mind is the song that had 4 separate basses. The chorus had bass guitar, the verses used the bottom two strings of an acoustic for the bass parts, the bridge that connected various parts used the bass pedals on a Hammond organ and the middle 8 {which actually is alot more than 8 bars ~ I just call those parts 'middle 8s' even if there's 48 bars} used a double bass.
A technique I've used alot for instruments that I don't really play but can doodle on is recording both in sections and slowed down to a different key. Certain things like organs benefit from overlaying the same part with two different drawbar settings for a thick Weeeeeuuuuwwwy kind of organ sound. And in the days when I had an upright piano, playing the strings with a stick or spoon brought interesting sounds.
Sometimes, both acoustically and electrically, if I'm going for a dual guitar sound, I'll use a mandolin as the second instrument. Especially electric, it's pretty neat.
 
I've used a baby monitor for background vocals. Had the singer sing into the transmitter and then miced the reciever. I've also used the baby monitor trick for a mix. The song was just a singer using an acoustic guitar. During playback I set up the monitor and miced it in another room. I didn't tell anyone it was on so we got the studio talking too. Used it in the mix with good results.
 
Another that comes to mind is during a session the client wanted a super lo fi sounding drum set. I set up my cheapest sounding drums and miced the whole kit with one cheapo sp1 mic in front of the kit. Damn if it didn't work out great.
 
damn grim ...... that's some cool experimental ideas there mang!

:)
 
There was this one time when I ...... never mind that all most ended me up in jail!!!!









:cool:
 
On a portastudio or any DAW that has a pitchwheel/varispeed wheel, a great one is to move the wheel as you record. Sometimes, on the organ, you can leap up or down 6 semitones to get a nice slurring 'down through the notes' sound. If you just hold down your hand on the same note/chord and move the wheel, when you playback at normal speed, you'll get this ascending or descending sound that's brilliant. Maybe the great and even average players can do it at will but I'm neither so I have to use jiggery pokery.
But that technique also has served me well on drums, except that for a real otherworldly swirl (especially if there are cymbals and hi hats), you move the wheel in all directions at will, randomly. It is weird !
Though common as muck when experimentalism and LSD was rife in the 60s, backwards recording is viewed as somewhat passe nowadays. But especially on the cassette portastudio, I made ample use of it's sonic delights. Flipping the tape round and doing an electric mandolin piece was a ridiculous idea I had once. Until I turned it back the right way....it sounded like an awesome guitar ! What a fluke ! It was also interesting to use on backing vocals, with a delay kind of reverb because when turned back the right way, the delayed sound came first. Creepy...Always had to remember though that track 1 was 8, 2 was 7, 3 was 6 etc. Wiped some good takes, forgetting that !
Backing vocals again, because my parents came from Nigeria and spoke Igbo, and because I've been exposed to so many different people that between them spoke a variety of languages, words in various languages make excellent 'sounds' for backing vocals. You can fit almost any word or phrase into any melody and it need not sound awkward like some English can.
And finally, following on from that, on one song I did that was fast and furious (it came initially during a jam), as I was playing my way through the chords, I could hear this melody but I couldn't think of any words, not even some corny shit ones......so I made up a language on the spot ! Having been used to the phenomena of what they call "speaking in tongues" {although it's a misnomer ~ 'tongues' was just a 17th century English word for language} it wasn't difficult to let myself go. I just imagined I was from Uruguay, for some reason. It did sound Spanish~y, like an angry Dad telling his kids off !
 
When I made my very first 4-track tape, I needed a drum track; a rock backbeat. I had no drums, no drum machine, anything like that. I did however have a Super NES with Mario Paint. I ran a cord from my TV's headphone jack to the line in on my TASCAM Porta, with my Nintendo drum track playing. It got the job done, and I'd consider doing it again someday (I still have my SNES). The last track I recorded was a vocal, and I was really shy about using my voice, so I turned the pitch control up and sang at the centre of my range. Played back at normal speed, I had this very deep, unnatural voice, and I was extremely happy about that.
 
When I made my very first 4-track tape, I needed a drum track; a rock backbeat. I had no drums, no drum machine, anything like that. I did however have a Super NES with Mario Paint. I ran a cord from my TV's headphone jack to the line in on my TASCAM Porta, with my Nintendo drum track playing. It got the job done, and I'd consider doing it again someday (I still have my SNES). The last track I recorded was a vocal, and I was really shy about using my voice, so I turned the pitch control up and sang at the centre of my range. Played back at normal speed, I had this very deep, unnatural voice, and I was extremely happy about that.

this is a winner. IMO. that is awesome!
 
A couple of other things that spring to mind ~ sometimes when double tracking a lead vocal, I'll record one at a semitone slower and the other at a semitone faster than the regular speed. When mixing the voices together, if you make one about half the volume of the other, you get a rather interesting texture. Imperceptible if you don't know !
Another weird one is using a headphone as a microphone. Sometimes when I've got a quick tambourine or shaker track to do but I just can't be bothered to set up all the mics, a headphone works well. It's not brilliant and groundbreaking but it's usable and surprizingly bright. I would imagine that if you want a "lo~fi" trashy guitar sound or thin spunky bass sound, the headphone is your man !
Sometimes as I'm driving about, I'll get an idea for a song and usually once I've fleshed it out, I'll get hold of one of my drumming pals and we'll record the foundation. But there have been times when I've taken the drum track from one song on my DAW, recorded it into my portastudio, taken a second drum track from a different song, done likewise then fed the result back into my DAW and used the two bits to make a completely new drum track to a piece I have in mind. The two or more drum tracks might be different in feel, tempo and other things but when put together, then with other instruments overlayed, makes the drummer {it may, in fact, be two separate drummers that did these bits years apart from each other !} sound ever so inventive ! Once while trying this, I had two drum bits in different time signatures, one 4/4 and one 3/4 or 6/8 {they sound the same to me !}. But the way my mate in the 4/4 bit played the hi~hat on just a tiny portion sounded like 3/4 and I figured it would join nicely with the waltz time because that had a nice hi~hat bit that fitted almost exactly. Not quite, but enough for a join point. With everything else going on, it sounded really cool to me and the mood of the piece shifts subtly yet dramatically.
damn grim ...... that's some cool experimental ideas there mang!:)
In this day and age with plugs that can do just about anything people want them to do, the era of the experimental technique may well be over. I find it amusing that something like trying to make a piece sound like it's being played on the radio or on a 7 inch scratched single is seen as being todays equivalent of 'experimental'. I guess I came up in the analog era where experimenting was still a viable pursuit even if it took ages just to net a few seconds of sound. I have always loved reading about how the bands of the 60s tried all kinds of things in the name of sounding different. And even before that, with people like Lester Paul and his 'sound on sound' that became multitracking as we know it.
It should be noted that a number of todays common everyday recording techniques began as weird experiments that went against the accepted grain.
The other thing that's important to note is that while there is a certain novelty value in doing certain unusual things, for me personally, they're in the same realm as reverb and compression. That is to say, the actual net effect is subtle and almost imperceptible unless it warrants being 'in yer face' and whatever the technique or experiment, it doesn't make the song. I'll discuss the experiment forever and a day because it's an intersting subject to me and some of us on the recording side of things but it's of no consequence to a listener and unless they have a particular interest in these things, neither should it be. I would hope it never distracts attention from the song in question.
 
Some pretty innovative ideas GrimTrav.

I can't wait to give a few of them a shot. :)

My favorite time sig waltz was between 7/4 and 98/16

There are seven groups of seven (or fourteen at double tempo) in each measure of 98.
 
Some pretty innovative ideas GrimTrav.

I can't wait to give a few of them a shot. :)

My favorite time sig waltz was between 7/4 and 98/16

There are seven groups of seven (or fourteen at double tempo) in each measure of 98.

That's a busy MIDI grid you must be dealing with. :rolleyes:
 
A couple of other things that spring to mind ~ sometimes when double tracking a lead vocal, I'll record one at a semitone slower and the other at a semitone faster than the regular speed. When mixing the voices together, if you make one about half the volume of the other, you get a rather interesting texture. Imperceptible if you don't know !
Another weird one is using a headphone as a microphone. Sometimes when I've got a quick tambourine or shaker track to do but I just can't be bothered to set up all the mics, a headphone works well. It's not brilliant and groundbreaking but it's usable and surprizingly bright. I would imagine that if you want a "lo~fi" trashy guitar sound or thin spunky bass sound, the headphone is your man !
Sometimes as I'm driving about, I'll get an idea for a song and usually once I've fleshed it out, I'll get hold of one of my drumming pals and we'll record the foundation. But there have been times when I've taken the drum track from one song on my DAW, recorded it into my portastudio, taken a second drum track from a different song, done likewise then fed the result back into my DAW and used the two bits to make a completely new drum track to a piece I have in mind. The two or more drum tracks might be different in feel, tempo and other things but when put together, then with other instruments overlayed, makes the drummer {it may, in fact, be two separate drummers that did these bits years apart from each other !} sound ever so inventive ! Once while trying this, I had two drum bits in different time signatures, one 4/4 and one 3/4 or 6/8 {they sound the same to me !}. But the way my mate in the 4/4 bit played the hi~hat on just a tiny portion sounded like 3/4 and I figured it would join nicely with the waltz time because that had a nice hi~hat bit that fitted almost exactly. Not quite, but enough for a join point. With everything else going on, it sounded really cool to me and the mood of the piece shifts subtly yet dramatically.

In this day and age with plugs that can do just about anything people want them to do, the era of the experimental technique may well be over. I find it amusing that something like trying to make a piece sound like it's being played on the radio or on a 7 inch scratched single is seen as being todays equivalent of 'experimental'. I guess I came up in the analog era where experimenting was still a viable pursuit even if it took ages just to net a few seconds of sound. I have always loved reading about how the bands of the 60s tried all kinds of things in the name of sounding different. And even before that, with people like Lester Paul and his 'sound on sound' that became multitracking as we know it.
It should be noted that a number of todays common everyday recording techniques began as weird experiments that went against the accepted grain.
The other thing that's important to note is that while there is a certain novelty value in doing certain unusual things, for me personally, they're in the same realm as reverb and compression. That is to say, the actual net effect is subtle and almost imperceptible unless it warrants being 'in yer face' and whatever the technique or experiment, it doesn't make the song. I'll discuss the experiment forever and a day because it's an intersting subject to me and some of us on the recording side of things but it's of no consequence to a listener and unless they have a particular interest in these things, neither should it be. I would hope it never distracts attention from the song in question.

holy fuck Grim...its like a secret font an' everything ;)
 
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