har-bal any good?

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i quite like the concept and what it does of this little program. a friend of mine who is into pro audio, said it cannot be good as it's too small in filesize either way. does anyone here use it?
 
I think it's fairly interesting as a learning tool. Fairly... Interesting...
 
I've had it for a few years. It is useful for learning and problem-solving.

Things to keep in mind: The spectrum matching feature is almost useless. The mix, the instrumentation, the key of the song, etc. can all affect the spectrum and you really can't make decisions based on seeing it on a screen and comparing it to a different song.

As an EQ (the limiter in the newest release is not too bad either) it is decent. You can make it linear or minimum phase. Having the average spectrum of the whole file displayed can be VERY useful to solve problems. Don't just go and level out all the peaks though, they may be certain transients that need to be there. You still have to listen to what you are doing or you will do more harm than good. There is a useful tool that you can use to look for peaks that are the result of comb-filtering. Surgically lowering those in the midrange can often repair a badly-recorded track.
 
....you really can't make decisions based on seeing it on a screen and comparing it to a different song.

..............

You still have to listen to what you are doing or you will do more harm than good.

Something that gets lost on a lot of ITB folks.
It's so easy to fall into the trap of mixing with your eyes and completely forgetting to just....listen. :)
 
I watched a video where the ME deliberately did his metering/analyzing/etc. with a different computer set to the side so that he would deliberately have to look away to see what was going on. Claimed that it kept him from mastering with eyes only.
 
I don't know what har-bal is, but this:
a friend of mine who is into pro audio, said it cannot be good as it's too small in filesize either way
is just plain retarded, regardless.
 
I watched a video where the ME deliberately did his metering/analyzing/etc. with a different computer set to the side so that he would deliberately have to look away to see what was going on. Claimed that it kept him from mastering with eyes only.

He couldn't just minimize the program's screen?
 
He couldn't just minimize the program's screen?

The purpose being that he would have to physically remove himself from the sweet spot to see the visual feedback so that listening and analyzing would become two separate things. Also, the analysis software was not taking overhead from the workstation doing the processing.
 
The purpose being that he would have to physically remove himself from the sweet spot to see the visual feedback so that listening and analyzing would become two separate things. Also, the analysis software was not taking overhead from the workstation doing the processing.
No offense to your friend, but it sounds like a load of crap to me. :D
 
No offense to your friend, but it sounds like a load of crap to me. :D

He was not my friend, nor was it some video on youtube. It was part of an instructional DVD set. Not saying he is right but I sense a bit of disrespect in you as if I was just pulling things out of my ass.
 
He was not my friend, nor was it some video on youtube. It was part of an instructional DVD set. Not saying he is right but I sense a bit of disrespect in you as if I was just pulling things out of my ass.
Dude, relax. I'm joking around. It didn't even cross my mind that you might be pulling things out of your ass. You made it clear that you were talking about what you saw someone else do. He's the one that's pulling things out of his ass. :D

If he's not your friend, I don't see why you're so sensitive about it, as if I'm insulting you personally.

But all joking aside, "professional" instructional video or not, it sounds a bit too much. Turn off the monitor or close your eyes forchristsake.. Sounds like he needed some filler for his professional instruction video, so he came up with this. Just my opinion, I'm certainly no "professional instructional video" maker or anything.
 
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