groups in sonar

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Hey,

I'm new to using Sonar. I've used pro tools quite a bit and I'm going to be using cakewalk when not at the studio - the thing I'm trying to do is group things together, like all of the drums, or a di + amp bass, or all of the guitar tracks, so I can solo, mute, etc all of them at a time. Generally I just send them out to an aux track but that doesn't seem to be working. Am I doing something wrong?
 
which version are you using? There`s several different ways to do it.


"SONAR lets you link faders, knobs, or buttons in the Track and Console views into groups. Groups are collections of controls whose movements are linked together. For example:

Two volume faders or controls can be grouped so that when you increase or decrease the volume of one track, the volume of the other track changes in exactly the same way.
Four mute buttons can be grouped so that when you click on the mute button to mute track 1, tracks 1 and 2 are muted and tracks 3 and 4 are un-muted.
The Console view and Track view identify controls, knobs and faders that are grouped using a colored group indicator that is displayed on the controls in each group. The controls in group A are displayed with a red indicator, the controls in group B with a green indicator, and so on. Controls, faders and knobs can be grouped together....

"To Add a Control to a Group
Right-click on the control.
Choose a group from the Group submenu.
SONAR adds the control to the group. Controls, knobs and faders are highlighted with the group's color indicator.

To Remove a Control from Its Group
Right-click on the control.
Choose Ungroup from the menu."

you can insert a new bus and have the group master controlled thru that bus
 
Oh! That's how you do it! Okay, that makes so much sense. I can't believe I over looked that. Thanks so much.
 
An easier way is to create a new sub-buss, called er Drums. Go into each individual drum track and create a routing bus and point it to the drum buss.

When you are done you have one master fader with potential fx bin for master controlling the drums.

If you start grouping controls, suggested above, you can have quite the hornet’s nest after time away from the project. I used to group controls but tracking back down, why something is behaving unexpected, can be frustrating. Also, if one of the group controls is set to half and another to full and you rotate to lower that control. The first control shuts off eventually and things don't proportionately adjust past a certain point.

Grouping buttons works for effects while mixing but the sub buss method for consolidating is the best approach to simulate say an SSL mixer.
 
Grouping is cool for a few obvious things like stereo pairs and their pan controls. Like on a kit/OH's, locking them after getting the balance set, and a reverse-ratio (in the custom menu) for a one knob width control.
Wayne
 
what MM said correct and logical. What I pasted concerning controls is Sonar's explanation, although when they say control they are initially talking about track volume. It can get to be a really tangled spiderweb once you deviate and go to assigning other controls in the tracks to a group.
 
mixsit said:
Grouping is cool for a few obvious things like stereo pairs and their pan controls. Like on a kit/OH's, locking them after getting the balance set, and a reverse-ratio (in the custom menu) for a one knob width control.
Wayne
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I dont have the need here at home, but if I ever mic a kit here that is a perfect simplifying solution.
 
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