Group Buy Interest?

[rimmic]

+ Carnhills , obviously

Matti

Obviously.

Correct me if i´m wrong Matti but, wasn´t last year when there was an attempt of a GB for Carnhills and the whole thing fell because of some "strange" situation?

 

[rimmic]

So, did anyone do any recording over the w/end?

Mmmm...my religion doesn´t allow me to do that during weekends, instead i let my GAS arise and but some little toys. (No pun intended).

 

[drBill]

And I nominate DrBill to run it!

Cool. I have to warn you though, I'm not nearly as altruistic as Chance. So...............with that in mind, please start forwarding large sums of money to my paypal account -

bp'slivinthehighlife@ineedamauivacation.com

PS - it's going to take a looooooonnnnngggggg time for these transformers to arrive, so please be patient.



bp

 

[JTC111]

Cool. I have to warn you though, I'm not nearly as altruistic as Chance. So...............with that in mind, please start forwarding large sums of money to my paypal account -
bp'slivinthehighlife@ineedamauivacation.com
PS - it's going to take a looooooonnnnngggggg time for these transformers to arrive, so please be patient.

bp

And then about a week after we all send you the money, that asshat Hyatt will tell us that the Lundahl's are actually Lun-Dungs and are made by a rice farmer in Wenxiang.

If I ever meet him, I have no idea how I'll ever keep my foot out of his ass.

 

[guitar zero]

In the immortal words of Roy P. Mercer:
"There's gonna hafta be an ass whoopin' here".

 

[wreckd504]

I think enough people got sucked up into Hyatt the douchebag's whiney-ass girly drama to have sunk any chance that the Group Buy will happen again, at least not in it's current form.

What about setting up a private forum and have only people who have participated in previous group buys. That way no-ones asking questions that have been asked before, could even reduce the time between GB's.

Is it out of the question to get the schematic for the pre? Someone smack me if i'm being unreasonable.

 

[JTC111]

Is it out of the question to get the schematic for the pre? Someone smack me if i'm being unreasonable.

THWACK!!!

Wanna ask again?

 

[wreckd504]

lol, next time i'll think twice before being figurative!

Do you think its an unreasonable request?

 

[JTC111]

lol, next time i'll think twice before being figurative!

Do you think its an unreasonable request?

THWACK!!!

WANNA ASK AGAIN?

Ugh! When I get done with this guy, I'm gonna teach hippos to dance ballet on ice.

 

[chance]

Over on PSW>Whatever works> here we go again on Pg 10 (out of 51 pages) beck in November, are two of the early prototypes in another brands enclosure. I might have posted it here too.

 

[wreckd504]

THWACK!!!

WANNA ASK AGAIN?

Ugh! When I get done with this guy, I'm gonna teach hippos to dance ballet on ice.

jtc: haha way to answer the question. If you don't care about the schema then fine, but give me a break with the bad humor.

chance: will check it out, thanks.

 

[drBill]

Over on PSW>Whatever works> here we go again on Pg 10 (out of 51 pages) beck in November, are two of the early prototypes in another brands enclosure. I might have posted it here too.

Nice Chance!!! I'd forgotten about those. Kind of brings home the reality of it all, eh???? I hope everyone takes the time to go over there and check it out so we can put this thing to bed!!!!!!

Here's the link. Middle of the page. NOVEMBER people!!!!!


http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/mv/msg/16069/0/144/0/

 

[mshilarious]

So now that prodigy-pro has the schemo Alan posted large enough to read, any official comment on that? Obviously, it's only the audio path; the metering and power supply aren't shown. Nobody probably cares much about the metering, but the inclusion of that (with its opamps) would be strong evidence of matching the innards of the 797 pre posted some months ago.

Also the power supply; clearly the audio path is single-ended, but the power supply in the pictures looks to have at least two and maybe four vregs, probably two for opamps plus +24V and +48V, but that section of the power supply in the picture is grainy and it's hard to tell. That's a lot of trouble for metering that could be single-ended. Class A metering? Why not! Actually I have a bizarre belief that metering should be full-wave rectified, but I am strange.

The great question is, what are the mods specified to that circuit, if that circuit is at all accurate. And somehow I get the feeling that can't be resolved until a unit arrives and somebody pops one open . . .

 

[antichef]

It was cool not to see any opamps in the schematic -- at the very least it means that those guys know how to build a pre using discrete components, whether or not the schematic describes one of the circuits we're getting. If they're using opamps in the power or metering parts, that's fine -- saves some space for what counts.

Not that [I know what I'm talking about or] there's anything wrong with opamps, mind you -- it's just that all my pres now use them in some way for sound signal processing, and I'm hoping for a change.

And, bad form to quote from somewhere else, but this made me smile inside: "I'm not going to get in the mode where I decide everything is likely to be rubbish and decide what's going to be changed already. I'll test out what's there and see if anything is really holding it back."

Jeez, the anticipation is starting to build, and it's only June 1! I hope I make it

 

[chance]

db,,,, you don't have to yell. LOL

 

[kojdogg]

just for the record and fwiw, my $0.02 postings were just because i don't want to see chance (and his noble gb efforts) get hosed. i tried to make that clear in the post after the pic i posted, but sorry if i did anything to rile people up.

 

[mshilarious]

It was cool not to see any opamps in the schematic -- at the very least it means that those guys know how to build a pre using discrete components, whether or not the schematic describes one of the circuits we're getting. If they're using opamps in the power or metering parts, that's fine -- saves some space for what counts.

I don't think there was much doubt the pre pictured was discrete. Well, the first pic I saw was too dark to see the discrete transistors, but the output transistor was always obvious. And the pic on p-p now you can see the transistors. Maybe it was just me and my LCD settings, I don't know.

So it was known quite early that the opamps were for metering, once it was explained that there was a LED on each EQ section.

Now, as far as opamps and metering, technically all we know is those are DIP-8 ICs, they could be comparators which are strictly just for metering, but a comparator is just a special kind of opamp. And you can use an opamp as a comparator if you add a couple external parts, which I don't see. So I'm guessing they are really comparator chips.

Alternatively, you can drive a LED off a single discrete transistor, but that doesn't quite give you comparator-type action, where the LED is either on or off. Instead, you get a LED that flickers with varying intensity, according to level. That's great for a simple meter with only one LED, but in a box that also has a VU and I think a strip of LEDs as well, it could get annoying.

You aren't likely to see an opamp in a power supply.

 

[MCI2424]

I think enough people got sucked up into Hyatt the douchebag's whiney-ass girly drama to have sunk any chance that the Group Buy will happen again, at least not in it's current form.

If Chance were going to do this again, I suspect it will be by invitation only. At least, that's what I'd do in his place. There's no way I'd willingly subject myself again to the bullshit he's had to endure over the past week. He goes out of his way to make this stuff available to us at cost, and when some asshole, who clearly has an interest in sabotaging this thing, makes unsubstantiated allegations (and relies on lies to support those allegations), a whole bunch of people start questioning his integrity and demanding proof that Hyatt's bullshit isn't true. That's just a big "fuck you" to Chance, no matter how diplomatically anyone tried to word it.

If I were Chance, and I wanted to run another GB, here's how I'd do it:
#1-As I said before, it would invitation only. I'd create a list of names/email addresses from this GB and then eliminate from that list everyone who might cause me an issue and that would include everyone who asked for any proof that Hyatt was lying.
#2-I'd take Randy up on his offer to set up an private message board just for the GB and insist that the GB not be discussed on public message boards.
#3-If uninvited people want to join in the GB, they'd have to piggy back on the order of an invited person and would not be allowed to post on the private BB. That way, the uninvited people (all potential problems) would be the concern of the person who brought them in. Those same uninvited participants, could then become invited participants in a following GB based upon the recommendation of the person they piggybacked with. And if that new person became a problem later, I'd throw him and the person who invited him right out on their e-asses.

That's how I'd do it. I'd be a real hump about it.

However, going back to the original subject, I'd bet this is the last GB we'll see. Hyatt accomplished his goal because there were a few people who weren't smart enough to see through his douchebaggery.

It was not too long ago that Alan did alot of damage on this board. At the time, he was just getting PMI up to steam. The people here got all caught up in the moment with the promise of high end mics for $100. Most were on his side and attacked all who questioned him. This exact thing is happening here now. We are talking about chinese made stuff that, in most cases are being sold by many companies. Chance delivered before and I have no idea why people who gave him a chance before all of a sudden are questioning him now. PMI wants to sell you their stuff and that is the only motivation they have. Who cares what Alan has to say? Chance delivered before, let him do it again.

I will say that I respect Chance 10 times more than before because he did not come here and blow up at Alan (like Alan has done in the past). Chance has been remarkably good in his posts amongst all the crap. This is probably a good indicator as to whom is telling the truth. Only the guilty have to overdefend themselves,

 

[chance]

Guys
Why don't we leave Alan alone. It's my thought he only read some of the posts. He might have read that my tech drafted the specs and automatically jumped to today, thought I was taking the credit, and assumed that these are the same. Maybe they are. The Chineese do not always come thru. If you remember the 310 prototype had the tube soldered to the pins. The final was supposed to be a socket mount tube. We got over a hundred of them and they were all soldered. When I confronted the manufacturer, their reply was "cost too much money" Sometimes we are at their mercy. If Alan had it in for me, Why would he contribute the 797 schematics for us to compare? I don't know if those schems are the same for our pres or not. My tech is going over the schematics. Again Alan stated that these were originally for CL. Since he posted this, I have been getting PM's and E-mails to the effect of "had we known these were originally for CL, we would want them. We have heard of CL, but we haven't heard of TnC and our risk is greater with an unknown brand (TnC) than it is with something slated for a company like CL." I have nothing against Alan. He was only informing everyone what he thought (that I was capitalizing on someone elses design). He gave us his endorsment that "it is a good box". Lets drop it. I know we all want to yak while we wait, but lets yak about things that are productive. Look at the spirit of what Alan said and not the letter of his words.

 

[JTC111]

jtc: haha way to answer the question. If you don't care about the schema then fine, but give me a break with the bad humor.

chance: will check it out, thanks.

Sorry Wreckd, but you were asking the same question that had been asked about 20 times in the past few days... but maybe you didn't read through all the posts. I wasn't trying to get your panties in a knot.