good time you been here before

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I remixed this cuz I got off on the wrong foot on this series.



How's the balance, the separation, the sound?

Comments are very welcome. And yeah, I hear that click right at the end, too. :)
 
Click, you mean a quick, hard to notice little disturbance? I heard it, I think, but it wasn't like it was a pop and on a small system (MP3 player), I don't think it would be heard.

I didn't hear anything that sounded off. Everything balanced. Nice performance and tune.
 
Are the guitar and bass gated? I found the jerkiness of it a little distracting in combination with the 'popping' (bongo?) drum. When the tambourine comes in towards the end, its continuing sound relieves that jerkiness, to my ears.
 
DM60 said:
Click, you mean a quick, hard to notice little disturbance? I heard it, I think, but it wasn't like it was a pop and on a small system (MP3 player), I don't think it would be heard.

I didn't hear anything that sounded off. Everything balanced. Nice performance and tune.
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Hey, thanks. It wasn't really a click - it was the sound of me moving at the end of the vocal track. It's funny how I miss something like that until I upload it for people to listen to. Vanity.
 
mjbphotos said:
Are the guitar and bass gated? I found the jerkiness of it a little distracting in combination with the 'popping' (bongo?) drum. When the tambourine comes in towards the end, its continuing sound relieves that jerkiness, to my ears.
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It's not jerky - that's just the way it moves. :) No, no gate on anything, although I'm thinking of adding one to the djembe to see if I can get it to pop even more. If it's jerky, it's cuz I'm a jerk. Thanks for the listen.
 
Sounds clean and crisp mostly, but there are points where there's a major hiss that comes through when the vocal goes out. Maybe cut the spaces between the vocals?
 
I really like it. I remember the track from another posting, i liked it then too.

BroKen_H said:
Maybe cut the spaces between the vocals?
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I agree with this. The noise and hiss in the spaces is a lot more prominent than I remember it being before.

Good track though. Makes me shuffle :thumbs up:
 
The noise and the hiss is a distortion plugin. That's interesting. I hadn't noticed it. I went a bit crazy on this one and put various distortion plugs on just about everything except the cowbell. I r-e-a-l-l-y like Soundtoys Decapitator and Fabfilter Saturn is worth its weight as well. BrokenH and MrClean - thanks very much - that's very useful.
 
I thought the vocal sounded good. Your vocal always sounds good.

That wood block - or whatever it was - was pretty loud. It takes too much attention from the vocal. SO

I liked the bass sound. You might want to turn it down slightly.

The only thing I didn't care for were the guitars. Maybe that's the way you want them to sound. But they sound like I'm listening to them through an oak door. They're missing a lot of high end.
 
Thanks, Triple. Useful things to play with. These days it seems it's all about levels, separation and sound. Other mixers talk about drama and development, but I don't get that yet. So comments about level and sound are really useful for me.

Question: when you put distortion on a track, do you use the plugin as an insert or do you put it on a buss and send to it?
 
Okay, boosted the guitar highs, put a gate on the vocal, cut the cowbell and the bass a bit, and tweaked the compression on the djembe.

 
Can't listen right now, but I'll provide a lame answer to your question. I don't put distortion anywhere after the fact. The only place i use it is on guitars, and I record them with distortion. However, if I were to put distortion on anything after the fact, I'd put the plugin on an aux bus and put in a send to it on the desired track. That's how I work with reverb, and it seems to me to be the easiest way to blend in the amount of effect I want. I'm guessing that would work well for distortion too.
 
dobro said:
Thanks, Triple. Useful things to play with. These days it seems it's all about levels, separation and sound. Other mixers talk about drama and development, but I don't get that yet. So comments about level and sound are really useful for me.

Question: when you put distortion on a track, do you use the plugin as an insert or do you put it on a buss and send to it?
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TripleM said:
Can't listen right now, but I'll provide a lame answer to your question. I don't put distortion anywhere after the fact. The only place i use it is on guitars, and I record them with distortion. However, if I were to put distortion on anything after the fact, I'd put the plugin on an aux bus and put in a send to it on the desired track. That's how I work with reverb, and it seems to me to be the easiest way to blend in the amount of effect I want. I'm guessing that would work well for distortion too.
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I use different types of distortion in different ways. Guitars are usually just run through an amp or sim. My tones are nothing to write home about, so maybe my advice is not great there. But a lot of the guys here that have great guitar sounds will tell you that if the source is not good, your sound won't be good.
Saturation (destruction devices) for vocal/drums, and even pads/strings, are usually applied via bus.
But there are other types of distortion, like tape saturation, vinyl simulation, etc. that I'll put on a master.
I've rarely found that putting any form of distortion directly in the channel is worth much, but occasionally it happens!
My bass is always blend parallel processed tracks using a clean DI and my amp, which I set according to the tone I want for the song from as clean as my B100 will go to filthy dirty. I once created a separate parallel track from my clean channel and applied Pulverisor Demolition plug direct on the track fully wet (but there's not much dif between this technique and bussing the effect from the DI, just sounds a bit fuller).
 
I think that the voice could stand out more.
 
I think the mix is very good, nothing stood out as something that was too quiet or too loud. Great vocals. Tambourine sounds really good when it comes in. Lip trumpet is pretty impressive. You almost made it through the whole solo without sucking wind. Quit smoking and you'll make it all the way through! :)
 
mjbphotos said:
Are the guitar and bass gated? I found the jerkiness of it a little distracting in combination with the 'popping' (bongo?) drum. When the tambourine comes in towards the end, its continuing sound relieves that jerkiness, to my ears.
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I agree with this, I think it's something to do with the stereo spectrum, it's like the tambourine sound fills out the spaces nicely. I would test out adding a bit more space to the mix when that isn't around.

I like the trumpet solo, and it might be nice to find a real(ish) sounding trumpet or synthy thing to briefly come in on top of it and play along.

Love the line...
We didn't know we were rich and Stupid
We didn't know we knew nothing at all
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Thanks for that, Tobe. The guitars are panned hard l/r. The two djembe mics are panned 20 l/r. I don't know what else to do to fill in the space.

I think your idea about a synth part matching the lip trumpet is great, but I don't have the chops to play it, I think.

The lyrics are a bit different than what you heard:

Oh we thought we was having a good time
We thought we was having a ball
We didn't know we was wretched and stupid
We didn't know we knew nothing at all

;)
 
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