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Hey! anybody familiar with Goldwave. I've just downloaded it and I'm really excited about it so far. I'm new at recording so there is a lot for me to learn but I'd like to know if anyone can help with this basic question: When editing a sound file what is the best sequence of steps. In other words should I EQ first, apply noise reduction if necessary, what? I do know that with a sound file I've already worked with some, I didn't notice the power hum in the background until I'd already done some editing. Is there a standard, best way to proceed.

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Rusty
 
I am kind of new to this too but I get rid of noise first and then work on the other stuff like compression, eq etc. Experiment and have fun.

Tucci
 
Hey Tucci,

Well I just edited a demo and I did it just the opposite, noise reduction last. My reasoning was that some of the editing might add noise. This is because I've had intermitent noise after certain editing. I think it's computer noise because of my crappie soundcard. Anyway it seemed to work ok for me that way.

Hey if you are using Goldwave please stay in touch.

Thanks,
Rusty K
 
Sonusman,

The article almost scared me away from recording. There is so much I don't know and may never know. I'm primarily a musician but I'd like to be able to control my own music a little bit.

With my 4trac MD system I've never had any illusions of producing top-notch product. When I'm ready for that I'll go to the professionals. I would, however, like to produce decent demo's to CD.

I honestly wasn't really sure what the article was supposed to tell me. I always save my original data. If it was that because digital processing necessarily changes the digital equation and therefore degrades the quality of sound and even adds noise, I don't think that was the main cause of the noise I've heard. At this point, because I lack some gear I need, I'm having to go from analog to computer and then back out to analog. Even with that the background noise doesn't necessarily appear on the final product. Hiss maybe but not an electrical buzz. Doesn't that sound like a poorly shielded sound card?

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Rusty K
 
You could be on to something there too Rusty. But, I pointed you towards that article because you were talking about all the editing that you are doing in Goldwave. If you were just doing cut and paste editing and no eq, compression, noise reduction, etc...you would be okay.

Basically that article was telling you that you need to do any volume, compression, eq stuff in 24 bit, then dither to 16 bit for playback through 16 bit converters. You see, all processing is done at least at 24 bit, and mostly at 32 bit. So, when your 16 bit files have had volume or eq editing done to them, the bit length gets a little messed up.

So, you turn some things up and what not. Then you play it back. In effect, you turned up sounds that may have been on your original recordings. Add the bad sound you get from not properly applying dithering, well, how would you know where the offending noises were coming from?

No, I DO know that a crappy little soundcard that comes with a computer is not a very good sounding piece. And, you are quite correct that the soundcard may not be shielded very well, but, you should look at the software side of things first to make sure that you are not creating problems with you data from not handling it right in the first place.

Goldwave is a cool little program, and you would be hard pressed to beat the price... :) But, after reading the old article there on digido.com, well, I don't use it now for anything but straight up cut and paste functions. It is also usefull for just taking a look at the file. But I have Wavelab 3.0 with a bunch of plugin's, so Goldwave can't really offer much in the way of any cool eq or compression stuff. So, furthered witht the fact that it has no dithering scheme to it, it is just a toy application. You would still need to run your files through another application to dither, so why even go through Goldwave except for a few easy editing functions?

Good luck.

Oh, also, you little 4 track could very well be the problem here too.... :D

Ed
 
Boy Sonusman you have a way of bumming me out. But not to worry I'm here to learn even if it hurts!

Goldwave will serve me till I get better. Thanks for making the article more clear for me. I think I have it now. Is Wavelab 3.0 previewable? Is it multitrac recording/editing? How much $?

Thanks again for your time and advice,

Rusty K
 
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