Getting that HEAVY chunk

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When I want a real heavy sound I use an original Big Muff from my Jaguar or Mustang into my Super Reverb.I pan that to one side then I record another track with the same set up or with just the amp turned up playing full chords pan that to the other side.Then I use a different distortion like a Danelectro fuzz wah and pan that center.I raise the level of the center guitar just enough to fill up the space.It seems to work pretty good
 
Definitly make sure you use an original BigMuff.......the new ones are only just as good. ....and when you buy Beatles records on vinyl, make sure they are originals. Those they put out a few years back sound like garbage.
 
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arjun said:
would you do that in the recording software?
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[/size]You can do it in software, however i prefer to do it at the preamp for monitoring purposes.
 
I do have a new Big Muff and it sounds different.Its a bit more distorted I guess.When I play single notes with my OLD Big Muff they sound cleaner than the reissue sounds.It still has the same kinda sound but just a little different sometimes I like it sometimes I dont.By the way my is not an original it was made in the late 70s I can tell by the way the nobs are maby I should buy a real original that would sound totaly different.Wouldnt it?Also I mic my amp with an AKG 190d on the grill and a condenser a few feet back either a Baby Bottle or a SP-C3.
 
Guys, I think I've figured out what I've been doing wrong. Direct recording either sucks real bad, or I just don't know how to do it (more likely).

I have grown so lazy that I never used my amps anymore, just played through the mixer and studio monitors. Also, I've had such terrible results trying to mic my amps, that I gave up entirely.

I plugged the rocktron into the effects return of a JCM 900 though a Marshall 4x12 cab, and holy shit does it sound good. I had forgotten how much ...

I also plugged in the Les Paul with the DiMarzios, and the thing just RIIIIIIIIIIPS.

I wish I knew how to record this to show you guys, I'm so pumped right now, it sounds so killer!

How could I have even THOUGHT that recording direct was going to sound good?

I need a mic I think, anyone want to recommend a good mic for this particular situation? :)

Thanks for all the input guys!
 
There is a mic that some people like to use to mic guitar cabs. I know a lot of people will disagree, especially allthe professional producers who know their stuff, but I would have to say.......ummmm........maybe the Shure SM57. I hear people have gotten some fairly decent results with them.
 
Agtronic said:
Guys, I think I've figured out what I've been doing wrong. Direct recording either sucks real bad
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LOL. No doubt. :)

SM57 right in the grill is the way to go.
 
How loud do you guys set the amps to mic them properly? (I guess it's kind of hard to describe volume through typing eh?) :)
 
Crank the midranges, that's where the chunk comes from. You might consider a boss metalzone as a cheap way to get some pretty monster tone, as well.
 
Hehe, I was going to post that you will have a REAL hard time getting "that" chunky Nu-metal Earth Crisis guitar sound with a Strat, unless it has humbuckers. You can spend a lot of money and time with effects and production to get it close, or you can just get a Les Paul and just overdrive your Marshall, turn the bass up and let 'er rip.

Making a strat into a chunk machine is like buying a 4x4 Chevy truck, and spending a lot of time and money into making it handle on backroads instead of just buying a Corvette.
 
Chevy sucks donkey balls!!!!!!!!

FORD is where its at!!!!!!!!!!!
 
chetbango said:
Hehe, I was going to post that you will have a REAL hard time getting "that" chunky Nu-metal Earth Crisis guitar sound with a Strat, unless it has humbuckers. You can spend a lot of money and time with effects and production to get it close, or you can just get a Les Paul and just overdrive your Marshall, turn the bass up and let 'er rip.
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I do have a les paul. I don't know exactly why I posted my sound using the Strat, maybe because I only had that old mp3 handy at the time of post.

I most definitely will use the Les Paul for this kind of music, or at the very least the RG550.

Uh Marshall??? Are we talking about a metal sound here? I can't stand Marshalls. They sound like crap to me. Well, I dunno, I haven't tried them all, so it's not fair for me to bash them. We have a JCM900 here and I really can't stand it. I DO ABSOLUTELY love the AC/DC sound, but I've yet to hear a Marshall sound like that elsewhere. Um, and this obviously doesn't apply to the chunky "Iced Earth" sound I'm talking about. More of an all-american, balls-to-the-wall kind of 100%-hard-rock-amp sound. If anyone knows which Marshall can give you that Razor's Edge sound, it is also something I am persuing.

Thanks for all the replies!
 
Try finding out what kind of pickups Mark Tremonti (from Creed) uses. I know he uses Mesa amps and 4x10 + 1x15' cabinets. I think his overdrive is the best I have ever heard in my life.

Listen to their second album. Human Clay.
 
a heavy sound IS definitely possible going direct.. I have heard my guitar sound is good.. Those of you who think you NEED to mic a cabinet to get a heavy sound are wrong.. Yes micing a Boogie properly is a great thing no doubt, but going direct works just fine too if you don't have a mesa..

just had to speak up for the dudes who are going direct and getting away with it.. :)


as you were..
 
the chunk= playing style (palm muting) and cranking bass, cutting all mids and cranking the volume like hell.

a nice tube amp and 4x12 doesn't hurt either. have fun.
 
hehe creed? no self respecting chunk monkey would be caught dead buying a creed album....
 
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