getting started set up

[Harvey Gerst]

Hey Harvey, out of curiosity, have you read Dylan's Chronicles? He talks about those artists a bit, and his other influences. I know you used to be big into the folk scene - did you ever get a chance to meet him?

Yeah, met him in '63 and we (The Men) jammed with him for about 3 or 4 hours on mainly Buddy Holly and Everly Brothers songs; we turned him on to "Folk Rock". I think he went electric because of us. We heard from Roddy McDowell that he was raving about our sound when he was in Hawaii - very shortly after that, he went electric.

I don't know Roddy McDowell, so I can't verify that, and I only met Dylan that one time.

 

[thehook]

thats awsome I got meet doc once a few years ago and as I 16 year old baby he has a huge influence on my life and musical tastes. I play him and others like him dock boggs, roscoe holcomb, hobart smith, uncle dave macon, tommy jarrell and everyone looks at me like I am nuts. Its to bad they don't understand 'real' music isn't the radio trash it is people that do it for fun and entertaimnet purposes isolated from trends and bullshit.
thanks again man
M-Audio DMP3
MXL v67g
MXL603S
Audiophile 2496 card

this is what I'm gonna get. Plus some stands and cables. Harvey what about these cans someone spoke of where can I get em? Would they be a good substitute for good monitors till I can aford them?
Lastly what do you folks and Mr. Gerst think about this set up for good roots music with a sparse not overpoduced demo sound?
thanks

 

[crazydoc]

Looks fine to me - good clean choices and under budget. With this stuff, used properly, your recordings will be about the music, not the gear, which is as it should be.

Headphones can be used to track (record), but generally not to mix as they don't give a realistic concept of what the sound will be like in open air through speakers. For starters, if you have a decent home stereo you can hook it up to the line out of your soundcard to get another idea of how things sound together.

I assume you have tracking software?

 

[thehook]

sorry to bump this but....please give me your last words on the subject think it sounds good for what I want say so, think it sounds like crap say so. Just want closure one way or the other before I start looking to buy this stuff. Harvey did you ever meet any old timers?
thanks
matt

 

[Harvey Gerst]

Harvey did you ever meet any old timers?
thanks
matt

I don't know what you mean by "old timers". I knew Lightning Hopkins, Mance Lipscomb, Fred MxDowell, Mississippi John Hurt, Flatt and Scruggs, Brownie and Sonny, Jean Ritchie, Albert King, Jean Redpath, Merle Travis, Johnny Bond, Tex Ritter, and probably a few jillion more in the 60's.

 

[thehook]

I would have to say, my friend, you are one of the luckiest men alive. WOW that is amazing stuff most of those guys are my idols espically fred, brownie + sonny, john hurt, lightnin, mance. Insane man. Did you ever get to meet dock boggs or clarence ashley? What do you think of the final setup I got planned?

 

[DJL]

M-Audio DMP3
MXL v67g
MXL603S
Audiophile 2496 card

I don't know anything about the Audiophile 2496 so I can't comment on it... but everything else will work good for making some killer demos.

As for mixing with cans (headphones)... it sucks, you really need to get some monitors.

 

[thehook]

shout...anyone with experience with the sound card?
more imput on setupt quality results wanted if possible. Not demanding, just trying.

 

[DJL]

hook... while you're waiting... check this out...

Goto http://www.mxlmics.com/condenser_mic/condenser_index.html and click on the MXL V67G and MXL 603S... read what Mr. Harvey Gerst said at the top of each page. Pretty cool... anyway they're good mics.

EDIT: Added...
Oh, and check this out...

Computer Recording and Soundcards
http://www.homerecording.com/bbs/forumdisplay.php?daysprune=&f=14

Don

 

[Harvey Gerst]

I would have to say, my friend, you are one of the luckiest men alive. WOW that is amazing stuff most of those guys are my idols espically fred, brownie + sonny, john hurt, lightnin, mance. Insane man. Did you ever get to meet dock boggs or clarence ashley? What do you think of the final setup I got planned?

I never met Dock, but I did hear Clarence once, but I don't remember much about the show.

I have about 20 reels of tape from the 60's that I recorded of some of the Ash Grove performers, including: Lighnin' Hopkins, Barbara Dane, Brownie and Sonny, Jesse Fuller, Flatt and Scruggs, the Chambers Brothers, Rambling Jack Elliott, and several others. Barbara Dane has released the tape I recorded as "Barbara Dane - Live at the Ash Grove". Her website is:

http://barbaradane.net/

It was pretty cool when you realize I recorded that in 1961, and then I recorded her in 2001 - almost exactly 40 years later.

 

[thehook]

lots of people have given the v67 lots of props as a vocal mic for what I am trying to do....what about the Audio Technica 4047 that hasn't even come up here yet but I saw some people talk about it and say its pretty nice...could you guys lay it out and compare the two for what I am trying to do...(will be running through a dmp3)

 

[DJL]

lots of people have given the v67 lots of props as a vocal mic for what I am trying to do....what about the Audio Technica 4047 that hasn't even come up here yet but I saw some people talk about it and say its pretty nice...could you guys lay it out and compare the two for what I am trying to do...(will be running through a dmp3)

http://www.homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=154697

IMO, the Marshall mics are cheap Chinese budget mics in the same class as Joemeek, Nady, Studio Projects, Behringer, etc... audio-technica makes better mics.