Getting gigs

  • Thread starter Thread starter chamelious
  • Start date Start date
Greg_L said:
Don't fall for you own hype. Just cuz some drunk goofs that happen to be in the same building that you just played in claim to like your stuff, it doesn't mean you're on to something. You got a lot to learn, kid. A lot of people like Britney Spears too. And hey, my music sucks as well. I'm just man enough to admit it and rock the fuck out anyway. :D
Click to expand...

Its not that i'm interested in your opinion as such, i'm just interested in understanding what you're basing it on.

We sound like all the other faux angsty wannabe hard melodic "core" bands? Name one???

+Yeah a lot of people like Britney Spears, whats your point? I'm guessing your point is "but she's still shit"? The millions who buy her shit just have " a lot to learn?"?
 
chamelious said:
+Yeah a lot of people like Britney Spears, whats your point?
Click to expand...

Really? You don't get it?

My point is.....people are stupid. It's kind of like a Catch 22. Most people want other people to like their music. The problem is that those other people are usually fucking dumb. If you're just trying to make a buck, then that's fine. Sell your stuff to any moron that will buy it. But if you're really looking for educated critiques on how you stack up against your competition, then you'll want a more informed opinion. Me personally, I don't need any validation for what I do. I don't care what anyone thinks. But if I did, I'd want someone that's a little better than some drunk loser at a club to tell me I'm great. I'd rather hear it from a musician that I can trust. It seems that you're kind of looking for both. The old saying goes "When you chase two rabbits, you'll catch neither". Which rabbit do you wanna chase? :laughings:

I'm not gonna list out the shitty bands that do your sound better than you do and with more success. You'll just disagree and get defensive again. ;)
 
Well Greg I guess I am sorta after both :)

Why would you rather hear that you're great from a musician? Why is their opinion any more valid than anyone else? Music is 100% percent subjective. If you think the millions of people buying Brittany spears records are "wrong" in some way then you got deeper prejudice issues than I thought. Fair enough a lot of the people who listen to that kinda music tend to fit a certain stereotype though. I'm betting that's why you take the attitude you do, and the same with our music. You see our singers used some hair straighteners, a white belt or two etc and insert us into a certain category of people you have a blanket hatred for.

Feel free to list off some bands, I'm just interested. I promise to to call you up on this one :)
 
You really wouldn't rather hear it from another musician?

I've heard people tell me my music is great all the time, only a few of them being musicians.

I haven't posted any music on here yet - but I can tell you that if I get some positive words on here - Especially from Greg, I wouldn't even bother trying anymore.

I would be content!
 
and ofcourse I'm kidding about "trying anymore".

But I really do take it much more to heart when someone else who plays and makes music compliments me -

Does that random dude out there just strumming a few chords and saying stupidly random words strung into sentences that has ditsy girls going googoo over his music impress you?

It doesn't impress me - and that's exactly why I feel the way I do.

If I impress another musician, I feel much more satisfied then I would impressing a random listener.
 
chamelious said:
Well Greg I guess I am sorta after both :)

Why would you rather hear that you're great from a musician? Why is their opinion any more valid than anyone else?
Click to expand...

Because they're musicians and regular non-musician people are musically dumb. If I actually cared about anyone's thoughts or opinions, I'd want them to come from an informed source, not someone that has no idea what's going on. For example, if my mom tells me that she likes my songs, I'm just gonna smile and say "thanks mom". But she doesn't know anything about music. She likes horrid shit like Annie Lennox and N'Sync. She's 60 years old. I love my mom dearly, but she's not a good source for music critique. On the other hand, if someone like Marky Ramone likes my music, then I'd be flattered and know I'm on the right track. See the difference? Marky can play, mom can't. People that go see small-scale live music do so because they can't do it themselves. They want to, but they can't, so they live their rock and roll fantasies through the band on-stage. I don't want the opinion of those dummies. They don't matter to me. They're just door money, and thanks for coming out.
 
Greg_L said:
I don't want the opinion of those dummies. They don't matter to me. They're just door money, and thanks for coming out.
Click to expand...


Although i'm most probably taking your words out of context, seeing people who enjoy your music and dummies/door money isn't an attitude I'll ever take, or find anything less than abhorrent. I don't care if someone likes our music because they enjoy the fact we have some 3 way harmonies using C# harmonic minor or half are chorus's are 3/4 or 7/4. Or if our chorus pedals just made hot emo girls wet.

I'd love to know what your actual criteria is for good or original music anyway?
 
chamelious said:
Although i'm most probably taking your words out of context, seeing people who enjoy your music and dummies/door money isn't an attitude I'll ever take, or find anything less than abhorrent.
Click to expand...

You'll get there, n00b. Enjoy your naivety while it lasts. You're gonna be huge! :laughings: :laughings:

Soon you'll be wiser, but jaded. It's a double-edged sword. It's good feeling to see things how they really are, but at the same time it can be sickening. Maybe you can't handle the truth? :confused:
 
Greg_L said:
You'll get there, n00b. Enjoy your naivety while it lasts. You're gonna be huge! :laughings: :laughings:

Soon you'll be wiser, but jaded. It's a double-edged sword. It's good feeling to see things how they really are, but at the same time it can be sickening. Maybe you can't handle the truth? :confused:
Click to expand...

What truth? You're not speaking truth, you're speaking your own narrow minded opinions.

There is nothing naive about enjoying playing gigs and not considering every non musician out there, a dummy. We play music because we love playing music, not to get "huge". (cue, so why did you start a thread about getting more gigs n00b! etc etc)
 
chamelious said:
20 years of playing live hasn't helped your music not be shit has it?
Click to expand...

Nope, but now we're talking about two different things. Playing live doesn't make your music better. It can make you a better player, but it doesn't make the music you play any better. Big difference.

I've been over playing live for a long time. I'm happy just bashing away in the garage with the band. They wanna play live, so I go along with it. It's fun, but I don't look to get anything out of it anymore. I haven't for a long time. I'm fine in front of 1 person or 10,000 people. Like I said, I couldn't care less if anyone likes what I'm doing. Truthfully, my only goal in playing live is to play and sound better than the other bands on the bill, and that usually aint hard. That's all about equipment and how you use it. The music itself doesn't matter in that regard.
 
So that we'll stop beating the "what bands chamelious sounds like" horse:
Lot of in flames.
Little bit of Devil Wears Prada, Attack Attack, etc. (but without the screams).

Yeah 2-5 gigs a month within a 400 mile radius is pretty solid. If you want to do more gigs than that, maybe book a tour?

I've found that the biggest challenge is getting the attention of the guy in charge of booking and convincing him that you're a serious, professional band.

I put together a band with my brother last summer (total band existence: 3 months). We drove across the country, and we'd stop at venues and tell them "We're a touring band from New York looking for gigs." Didn't get us gigs immediately, but it got their attention, and it got them to pull out their calendars to look for spaces a month out or so.
 
VomitHatSteve said:
So that we'll stop beating the "what bands chamelious sounds like" horse:
Lot of in flames.
Little bit of Devil Wears Prada, Attack Attack, etc. (but without the screams).

Yeah 2-5 gigs a month within a 400 mile radius is pretty solid. If you want to do more gigs than that, maybe book a tour?

I've found that the biggest challenge is getting the attention of the guy in charge of booking and convincing him that you're a serious, professional band.

I put together a band with my brother last summer (total band existence: 3 months). We drove across the country, and we'd stop at venues and tell them "We're a touring band from New York looking for gigs." Didn't get us gigs immediately, but it got their attention, and it got them to pull out their calendars to look for spaces a month out or so.
Click to expand...

Cheers dude not a bad idea to raise general awareness. I can see where you coming from with DWP and attack attack coz of the synth, not so much in flames. I just think of never ending guitar battles and that guys grating voice when i think of them!
 
I figured In Flames was a closer match vocally (style-wise, not neccessarily tone) than the others.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top