Getting a warm bass drum sound?

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I listen to mostly rock stuff and one thing that always jumps out at me is the quality of the bass drum. there are some records that shine in this area and others that don't come close.

My question is how do you get a really warm punchy bass drum sound? To me, the sound is much like the difference between playing clean guitar through a solid state amp vs. a really warm tube amp. Are tube pres what it takes? I'm thinking of getting a great river sometime in the near future, will that cut it for that sound? What about compression and other things to help? I'm using a akg d112.

Thanks,
Brandon

here's a small clip on one i thought really stood out.

 
How common is drum triggering in rock music? I downloaded the demo of that program chess posted and the bass drum sounded great. If only i could get a similar sound while recording.

I'm wondering how many records actually have triggered bass drums and i never knew it. Do people trigger is with a component on the drum itself, or record it naturally and send it through a processor like this program that notices the hits and replaces them with a sample?

Brandon
 
You can trigger either way that you mentioned. If you are gonna trigger just the bass drum...just buy a trigger module,and hook up a component trigger to your drum. Tons of your rock albums use triggers...tons.
 
after listening to that sample

you certainly have the right mic. that bass drum sounds very much like a d112 miced one.

also, yea, if that is the sound you are after i would go for some triggering and layering.

also sounded pretty compressed to me as well.
 
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