Followup to the Digi001? Digi002?

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You can't use the 192 I/O with anything but Pro Tools HD. It uses a proprietary connection. Also, all the digi interfaces you uswe with hd are linked to each other for timing information using another proprietary optical connection. The converters are actually designed by Digidesign with a couple of high-end audio guys, I forget all of their names, one of them is Ed Meitner. I have heard good things about the clock they are using in it too. Anyway, to my ears it is gorgeous.

A Pro Tools system doesn't cost 30 grand. Someone threw out that number, I'm not sure why. The list prices for the new HD systems are the same as they were for the MIX systems for the last 4 years, so a system would be 10-15k. Although you can add a lot of stuff and definitely take the price into the stratosphere... With 30 grand you could definitely put together a killer system. But would it be "better?" That's subjective. You wouldn't have access to the plugins that take Pro Tools over the top, McDSP and the Sony Oxford eq, or the stuff by Wave Mechanics, the Access virus, etc., or the fidelity of the 192 IO...
 
i think the first thing u should consider when buying PT is are u going to be in and out of a studio often that using PT, compatibility is a big plus

do u plan to keep it completely virtual when it comes to efx, Pro tools got every plug in and then some(exclusive plug-ins)

but if your looking for something that Sounds good and u think digi 001 sounds better then any other daw...ummmmm nooo
sound quality is primarily dependent on converters not software and 3rd party makers still make the best quality converters, if Digi made great stock converters then what would be the point for you to upgrade to the next system 3 years from now?? hmmmm
 
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sound quality is primarily dependent on converters not software and 3rd party makers still make the best quality converters
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I would have agreed with you on the older Pro Tools Mix hardware, the converters were not great. But I don't agree on the new stuff. I think the Pro Tools HD 192 I/O has the best converters and clock I've ever heard... and I'm not the only person who thinks it.
 
Teacher said:
i think the first thing u should consider when buying PT is are u going to be in and out of a studio often that using PT, compatibility is a big plus

do u plan to keep it completely virtual when it comes to efx, Pro tools got every plug in and then some(exclusive plug-ins)

but if your looking for something that Sounds good and u think digi 001 sounds better then any other daw...ummmmm nooo
sound quality is primarily dependent on converters not software and 3rd party makers still make the best quality converters, if Digi made great stock converters then what would be the point for you to upgrade to the next system 3 years from now?? hmmmm
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i've heard they sound pretty much identical at given sample rates
 
Digi 002

Well, there's a little graphic on the Digidesign front page that gives some clues about the next Pro Tools LE product (rumored to be called the 002). The inference from the little flash animation is that it connects with firewire, and that it includes or can be used with some kind of really slick looking control surface. It's being announced at DigiWorld Nashville, which starts on Thursday.
 
The rumor I heard is that Microsoft is acquiring DigiDesign and that they will no longer develop or support Mac applications.

(Or maybe that's the rumor I started . . . .)
 
I have to say, I'm pretty good on those rumors... I was right about the 002 being firewire (at least from the graphics I've seen now) and I was right about the next version of Pro Tools being XP only (although who knows about the MacOS X stuff yet). I wish they would give me free gear for guessing at their future direction...
 
BICKERING, BICKERING, BICKERING

Everytime I see one of these POSTS, you guys never talk about the essential thing: THE MUSIC

Whether someone used a : 001, the new HD System, Nuendo, SX
all of you can still suck. The software only enhances what has been input, it crossfades, eq's, compresses, voice modulates, adds effects and so forth yadda yadda yadda.

All of these unique wares handle WAVE AUDIO the same way, with differences only by the MANUFACTURER ((of course they cant all have the same EXACT thing cause what would differentiate them apart, making people bark and argue who's better or best))

It's funny too, cause while you guys are ARGUING there are people who could give a rats ass and are concentrating on the MUSIC, try to make a mark, cause we here are so DEEPLY in DEPTH with our AUDIO GEAR-- what matters -- is the PUBLIC.

And rest assure NONE OF THEM (the people you want to impress to buy your stuff from all your PRO-TOOLS, NUENDO MIXES)will not buy your stuff if the MUSIC isnt good.
 
The DIG002 Specs and Picture!

Copied from the Harmony-Central Hardware&Accessories Forum:

here it is...

Digi002

MSRP $2500USD

http://www.alphajerk.com/livingroom/002.jpg

I/O:
8 analog inputs with 4 mic pres with individual gain and high-pass filter; 48V phantom power switchable in channel pairs.

8 analog outputs. Outputs 1&2 mirrored on 1/4" TRS Monitor Output (with dedicated volume control.) headphone output on 1/4" TRS (with dedicated volume control.) and RCA -10 dBV fixed output

8 channels of ADAT optical I/O OR 2 channels of optical S/PDIF I/O

2 channels of S/PDIF I/O on RCA connectors

Alternate Source Input for direct monitoring of -10dBV audio equipment

24 bit/96 kHz converters

1 MIDI In and 2 MIDI out ports

Footswitch input for punch in/out

Control Surface:
8 touch sensitive, motorized faders

8 motion sensitive rotary encoders for pan/send/plug in control

LEDs surrounding rotary encoders also serve as level meters.

10 scribble strips (a la Control 24) for track, name, pan, send, fader, and plug-in values and timeline position

Transport control

It works as an interface, a control surface, AND as a stand-alone digital mixer with built-in effects!

The software is a 96k-capable version of the existing Pro Tools LE, 32 tracks.
 
Touche!

Kelby said:
The rumor I heard is that Microsoft is acquiring DigiDesign and that they will no longer develop or support Mac applications.

(Or maybe that's the rumor I started . . . .)
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Seems an appropriate response to the eMagic/Apple agreement
 
Re: BICKERING, BICKERING, BICKERING

[email]mstudio1224@aol.com[/email] said:
Everytime I see one of these POSTS, you guys never talk about the essential thing: THE MUSIC

Whether someone used a : 001, the new HD System, Nuendo, SX
all of you can still suck. The software only enhances what has been input, it crossfades, eq's, compresses, voice modulates, adds effects and so forth yadda yadda yadda.

All of these unique wares handle WAVE AUDIO the same way, with differences only by the MANUFACTURER ((of course they cant all have the same EXACT thing cause what would differentiate them apart, making people bark and argue who's better or best))

It's funny too, cause while you guys are ARGUING there are people who could give a rats ass and are concentrating on the MUSIC, try to make a mark, cause we here are so DEEPLY in DEPTH with our AUDIO GEAR-- what matters -- is the PUBLIC.

And rest assure NONE OF THEM (the people you want to impress to buy your stuff from all your PRO-TOOLS, NUENDO MIXES)will not buy your stuff if the MUSIC isnt good.
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Come on, thats the fun of messaging on a bbs. We are all very much into the music, but, this is a forum/board for debating a piece of gears worth and giving/recieving advice..

No one would be messaging including you, if we all concentrate on the music in the context you are explaining.. This is an accessory;)

While I agree with alot of your post...

Don't confuse fun ribbing, or even serious debating with arguing.

We all like to defend our favorites :)
 
All in fun

VOXVENDOR

true indeed. let me loosen up a bit

(I like Cubase SX, thought about using the 001 --still thinking)
(I would jump to 001 if I found a way to import MIDI files from Cubase)

So you guys can convert me if someone finds a way, I'm currently building my own D.A.W
 
Im not sure.

It MUST be possible..

Check out the DUC (Digi user conference BBS) at www.digidesign.com

Your bound to find the info there..

Or find a Cubase BBS

Joe
 
Cubase can export MIDI files. You can import MIDI files to a track, or import them to the MIDI region bin in Pro Tools LE. This is pretty well covered in the manual. However, I would not buy a Digi 001 now, Digi 002 is the way to go.
 
Are you guys sure MIDI IMPORT

VOXVENDOR -- I will check DIGI and STEINBERG.NET again, maybe I missed it.

CHARGER --- Are you sure? if so I'm gonna do a test, a friend of mine has the 001, so I will export some MIDI files --nope-- no can do he has a MAC (I just remembered).

NOTE: current CUBASE/MIDI is on PC my new DAW will be PC
 
Yeah, I'm sure. I did it this morning to test it out. It's all documented in the manual. Basically, Pro Tools can import either a single-instrument/track MIDI file, or a MIDI file that contains multiple instruments/MIDI tracks. I've done both, and they both work just fine. By the way, I'm pretty sure almost any DAW that supports MIDE can do this, this is not unique to Pro Tools or Cubase.
 
midi can go from PC to MAC

I do alot of midi work using SOnar save as a midi file and then e-mail it to the ProTools studio I work. No problem. Midi is your friend

lD
 
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Say Word....

I didnt know that, looks like I will get a 001 then.

Having one unit for all: MIDI, AUDIO, PCI-Card does sound better than my: 2408MKII-PCI 324 for audio, MOTU Express XT for midi, Cubase SX for sequencer

I know a guy who is selling a 001 for $675 so I'll check him out
 
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