Floyd Rose?

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Im wondering whats the differents between a Lo pro floyd rose and a regular floyd rose, i mean i know what the differents is on what they look like im just wanting to know do they play different, does the feel of the guitar feel different? whats the differents between single locking a double locking?
 
I don't know about the difference in feel, but double-locking trems clamp down, or lock, on the strings at both ends of the scale. That is, they clamp at the nut and at the bridge. Single locking trems only lock at one end, the nut. With the double-locking trems, you have to either buy strings with no ball-ends or cut the ball-ends off yourself. Single-locking trems don't have this issue.
 
But single locking trems have issues at the 'ball' end if you dive the trem hard. I have a Kahler on my '88 Jackson and I solder the part of the string that wraps around the ball to eliminate problems.
 
BrentDomann said:
With the double-locking trems, you have to either buy strings with no ball-ends or cut the ball-ends off yourself.
This is not always true. The Kahler Spyder lets you thread the strings through without having to cut off the balls. There is nothing worse than cutting your balls off.:D
 
ocnor said:
This is not always true. The Kahler Spyder lets you thread the strings through without having to cut off the balls. There is nothing worse than cutting your balls off.:D


It's doubley not true because if you take out that stupid pinch block, you can stick the ball right down in there and lock down right on the ball. I've been doing that for years on my strat. I got sick of those little blocks cracking and corroding and getting stuck so I just took them out.
 
The low profile Floyd is just a different design that gets the fine tuners a little farther back and out of the way. The trem works the same way.
 
HangDawg said:
It's doubley not true because if you take out that stupid pinch block, you can stick the ball right down in there and lock down right on the ball. I've been doing that for years on my strat. I got sick of those little blocks cracking and corroding and getting stuck so I just took them out.

Why did I never think of doing this? I lived with a double-locking trem for about 10 years and really REALLY hated changing strings because of those damn blocks. Like you say, they were always stuck and needed prying with a small flathead in order to make room for the neutered strng. Plus snipping the strings took time, and changing strings on that thing was a 3-handed job.

I'll never own a double-locking trem again, but this sure would have made it easier!
 
Tadpui said:
Why did I never think of doing this? I lived with a double-locking trem for about 10 years and really REALLY hated changing strings because of those damn blocks. Like you say, they were always stuck and needed prying with a small flathead in order to make room for the neutered strng. Plus snipping the strings took time, and changing strings on that thing was a 3-handed job.

I'll never own a double-locking trem again, but this sure would have made it easier!


Ha, yeah I wish I would have thought of it sooner. It would have saved alot of frustration. I have my floyd blocked so I can even drop tune it and it doesn't move. I also had my bridge saddles custom made out of stainless. Mine will never rust or pit again. :D
 
Gentlemen, Kahler, if that is what you are referring to, is a surface springmounted trem. I didn't even know they still made Kahler, but amen if they do. Best tremolo, imho, ever made. I always idolized Eddie Van Halen and he endorsed Floyd Rose, but I played a Kahler once and thought it wasn't a Floyd. Then I realized it wasn't a Floyd I wanted. I fitted my '82 Stratocaster with a Kahler (long since sold), my Charvel model 3 with a Kahler, a guitar I designed with a Kahler, and finally my Jackson Custom Soloist (I believe it is '88) with a Kahler. Of course the Jackson being a CUSTOM Soloist back in the day, came with whatever you wanted on it for around $1700. I have a white Kahler with the flip up nut locks on a custom purple body with my name in ghost letters...had a friend design the lettering and sent a sample in for the color. Man how I miss those days of Jackson-Charvel. :)

I think Fender runs the show now, right?
 
Get a standard, basic Floyd if you are going to get one. Anything else, and you are basically SOL when it comes to getting replacement parts.

And eventually, you will probably need replacement parts.



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The balls are not an issue if you thread the string first through the tuning machine, then down the neck & into the trem, clamping the non-ball end.
 
Seeker of Rock said:
Gentlemen, Kahler, if that is what you are referring to, is a surface springmounted trem. I didn't even know they still made Kahler, but amen if they do. Best tremolo, imho, ever made. I always idolized Eddie Van Halen and he endorsed Floyd Rose, but I played a Kahler once and thought it wasn't a Floyd. Then I realized it wasn't a Floyd I wanted. I fitted my '82 Stratocaster with a Kahler (long since sold), my Charvel model 3 with a Kahler, a guitar I designed with a Kahler, and finally my Jackson Custom Soloist (I believe it is '88) with a Kahler. Of course the Jackson being a CUSTOM Soloist back in the day, came with whatever you wanted on it for around $1700. I have a white Kahler with the flip up nut locks on a custom purple body with my name in ghost letters...had a friend design the lettering and sent a sample in for the color. Man how I miss those days of Jackson-Charvel. :)

I think Fender runs the show now, right?


Fender owns both Charvel/Jackson, and Floyd Rose.


Kahler was out of production for about a decade clearing up some patent shit, and runing down a bunch of companies who were pirating their design (they made Carbon Fiber Golf Clubs in the interum, if you can believe it), but they have been back in production for about 2-3 years now.


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Seeker of Rock said:
Gentlemen, Kahler, if that is what you are referring to, is a surface springmounted trem. I didn't even know they still made Kahler, but amen if they do.
Kahler used to make a Floyd-licensed type trem as well. They are now back to making their old trems. In fact, they are starting to get 7-string and 8-string versions going.
 
I always like the feel of their trems, and thought I saw some new Kahler models out somewhere. If I like their trems, I wonder how their golf clubs were/are? :D
 
thenextbigthing said:
Im wondering whats the differents between a Lo pro floyd rose and a regular floyd rose?

Perhaps less out of tune and 40 minute string changes ....
 
Replacing ALL strings at one sitting can be a pain in the ass. Tension is everything. Prestretch the strings and you're good to go.
 
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