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Hi,

This is a premix of a song off of a 10 song demo compilation I'm working on, any comments, criticism appreciated.

Thanks!A song. Hope you like it. Needs work on the mix side, any ideas? All comments critism and suggestions appreciated as always.

Filename: sosad1.mp3

http://www.sigmacomputers.on.ca/Music/songs.html

Emeric




[This message has been edited by Emeric (edited 05-30-2000).]
 
This is after one listen through. I thought that the music sounded great, nice sound. The voice on the other hand, I did not like. It sounded lifeless to me, I think it had to do with the tracking, but If there is any control over it, I would really try to get that vocal sounding really good, maybe retrack or add some harmonies or double it. It seemed to low in the mix sometimes too.

I'll listen some more and report back.


ametth
 
Hey ametth,

Thanks for listening to it. Your right, the vocals are a bit lifeless, and the volume does vary a bit. Not sure what I should do about it, redo it I suppose. Originally was suppose to be an octave higher, but that's too much for me.

Thanks again!

Emeric
 
Hoo! That guitar work at the end was exciting! That was good.

Next point: the sound is really good, the bass doesn't get lost or too boomy, the drums are right there without being overbearing, and the guitars sound tasty.

Your voice is fine - sounds a bit like Cockburn. Maybe you need some more elbow room on the delivery, though. Try bending and distorting the vocal instead of singing it clean and tidy, and watch what happens - let it be twisted and grotesque even at places, and suddenly there'll be space for emotion and energy to come through that'll change the sound of the vocal.

Oh, and what would it sound like if there were only two sections of acoustic intro instead of four? Cut to the chase quicker, like it's important to get the song said right away?

Good work, you. :)
 
This sounds really good ...
As stated before the vocals need ... something. Maybe double them for the chorus? I'd almost like them a little louder in the verse too ... maybe compression would help that part out. I think you sound fine in that range, though.
When Electric Gtr comes in, I think it steps on the Acoustic a little because it sounds like they're also doubled and panned hard L/R ... maybe find a spot closer to the center for those to give them their own space(?) ... that may get a little dicey during the gtr solo though ... it's a thought anyway. That nice little riff on Acoustic at the end seems to have a little too much verb on it to me.
Nice tune. Very clean sound on this recording. Well done. :)
 
I think you have a really good stereo image going on. Usually I don't like a lot of panning. but it works here. The voice is a little buried, it needs to come up a little more and be more consistant overall (volume wise at least- but experiment with different sound for the voice in different parts- this mix almost screams for it!

-jhe
 
Good work, man....BigK's right about the first elect.git, maybe bring it down a bit and mess with the eq...yeah the vocals could use some more dramatic phrasing or something, like dobro said...doubling might work pretty well too...I agree about shortening the acoustic intro......the solo rocked...sounded like you were having fun there......gibs
 
I think this sounds REALLY great... apart from a few little things which hopefully can be fixed easily.

As far as vocals go I like how you have the low part for the verses and the higher part for the choruses... I think that really works well... but as suggested I think doubling the vocals on the chorus will make the chorus a lot more powerful. By doing this you would be creating great dynamics for the song... verse - low mellow vocals with just acoustic guitar... chorus - doubled vocals, more guitars etc... ie you build tension within the verse and then release it at the chorus with everything you've got.

The mix sounded really good. I thought the crashes were a little thin and a bit swishy - but that's probably just a personal preference thing.

There were however two parts at 3.06 and 3.58 were there was some serious guitar feedback on the right side... I don't if this was planned, but I found it to be a bit annoying.

I'm not usually this critical but I really want you to get this sounding good because I think it's a really cool song... great guitar and as far as the vocal melody goes, I think it is really cool.
 
Hey, thanks so much for the help.

dobro - I'll try shortening the start to 2 and see. Yeah, the vocals need a bit of change on the chorus.

BigKahuna - Doubling the vocals might do, it I'll give it a shot. The electrics might be stomping a bit on everything, I will try and pan them a bit different. Your right there is too much reverb on the riff at the end.

James HE - I tend to pan things pretty hard left and right, glad it works for this one. Will work on the vocal.

Gibs - Will do, Bit of EQ might help them fit in better.

Cooperman - Yeah the doubling might help out with the dynamics for sure. The feedback at those points is intentional, maybe I can bring it down a bit.


Thanks again everyone for the ideas and help,

Emeric
 
Hey, you've just taken on a boatload of feedback - digest it before application. It might not all apply. :)

Doubling the vocals, gentlemen - you mean singing the same part twice, right? Not creating a second track with the software, I mean.
 
Okay, you're homefree - I've listened to it eight times and it's still listenable.

What's the end of the last line in the second verse? I have a good reason for asking.

And live the way, the way...

And why'd you choose this song out of the 10 song demo?
 
Hey dobro,

No particuliar reason, but this one was most near completion as far as mixing and tracking - the feedback here gives me a good idea of how to approach the others, which are finished, just need to be mixed and the odd track touch-up.

For the first verse it's - ...we choose. Second verse - ...and that's the truth.

Thanks,
 
what equipment do you use to make this demo
the overall sound quality is mind blowing?

was it recording using a Pc or dedicated hardware ??

work on the vocals, take more takes and just experiment a little to you get it right.

it will be well worth it!
 
There's not much more I can say that's already been said. But, I really liked the song alot.
Has anyone ever told you that you sound like John Lennon with a hint of Neil Young tossed in?
I thought the tone on the lead guitar was great, but I also liked the guitar at the very, very end of the song... I wish you had played that part a little longer.. it sounded really good.
I heard a bit of feedback in a spot or two, but it wasn't too distracting.
Overall, it's a really good, well-written song with good arrangement and some talented playing. I listened to it 3 times.. so, that says alot!
You've done a nice job so far. You just need to get the mix tweaked a bit here and there.
I'm looking forward to hearing more of your songs, so keep 'em comin'. :)
 
Emeric...Great tune man! sorry I have'nt d/L it before now, Buck hit it on the head lennon/Neil Young, your voice sounded something like that to "me" too.

The guitars really ROCKED!! your solo SMOKED!!and I liked the feedback I heard a couple or three times in there, made it sound honest. did I mention your solo FRIGGIN SMOKED :D Grrrrrrreat work Emeric.

Uncle dave
 
Emeric

Just listened to your tune and everthing
sounds ok to me. I really like the sound your
getting on the acoustic guitar. I cant seem to get a good sound. The only problem I could see (which is not a problem for me)is
that for the consumption of the general public the song is to long. Thats where I face the biggest challange when I record is
to remember that their attention is usually
under 3 minutes. I've anguished over the cuts
I've had to make in my material to keep them
under 3.5 minutes and man I've had some long
songs. Keep up the good work and don't listen
to me.
 
Got in on this one late - excellent work, man! dig the guitar sound - good performance, I'd bump the vocals up more and/or compress to flesh them out - not much more that hasn't been said. I totally dig the voice.

*OK, wanted to open this in Sound Forge to check the waveform before I made this comment - I feel that you could add some more compression to the final mix to tighten it up a bit - I used Waves RCL on this and at a threshold of -4.3, ratio of 3.99, and a gain of 1.8, the mix felt tighter to me - it pulled the drums down just a bit, in turn helping the vox come through better. Just an idea -
I REALLY like this tune!

[This message has been edited by jitteringjim (edited 04-25-2000).]
 
I got in late too, sorry about that! I like the mix a lot, about the only thing I can think of that I would request would be a little more bass guitar, but other than that, nothing. I think someone else mentioned this, but the intro might be a little long, but that's just personal preference. Great job man. Cool tune.
 
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