fattening

[jugalo180]

when fattining a sound i understand that you can add a delay and pan it. now, do you duplicate the track with the dry panned to one side at a desireble pan, and the dry track (with) the delay filter panned to the other side at a desireble pan or, are you suppose to pan dry one side wet other side? if the answer is the dry oneside wet other, what plugin would allow me to do this?

 

[littledog]

I would go dry to one side, delay to the other. If your software allows you to create an aux return track, just send the dry signal to the aux track and instantiate your plug-in there (set to 100% wet) and pan the aux opposite your original track.

Brute force method if nothing else works is just copy your part to a new track, drag the audio back in time however many milliseconds you wish to delay, and pan the tracks opposite eachother.

 

[jugalo180]

thanks

i think i'll utilize the bruteforce method, helpful advice. that would be one less filter that i need on my track.

 

[tdukex]

Fattening Thresholds

Fattening is achieved by using a delay of 1 to 30ms, depending on the sound source. Longer delays produce a "doubling" effect (as if the part was played twice).

According to David Gibson, in "The Art of Mixing," the folowing are approximate delay thresholds between hearing one sound vs. two:
Hi-hat, Percusson = 10ms
Snare, Kick, = 15ms
Piano, Horns = 20ms
Vocals, Guitars = 30ms
Bass, tubas = 40ms
Slow strings = 80ms
Elephant fart = 100+ms (Ok, infinity. Elephant farts reverberate at such slow intervals that the human ear cannot detect how many elephants are farting at once, nor can our ears determine which direction(s) these omnidirectional farts are coming from. In fact, the sub-fart sound that elephants produce can be a usefull tool in providing that animal magneticismic felt-as-much-as-heard low-end we are all striving for in our tracks).

David Gibson is wierd.

 

[jugalo180]

the art of mixing

hey tdukex, i just got that book the day before i posted the question? i just needed to know about it more indept. pretty good book. i think i need something on video though. any suggestions anyone?

 

[geekgurl]

Re: thanks

i think i'll utilize the bruteforce method, helpful advice. that would be one less filter that i need on my track.

Yeah, I do this and it seems to work better for me.