tascam 244 cue panning: help me understand

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I watched the video in the Reverb listing. It sounds like a fuzz/distortion box. Maybe it’s a thing I’ve not heard of that people are in some way bringing an old cassette 4-track on stage with them and are using it in some way to get a fuzz/distortion effect, but my hunch is the correlation to a cassette 4-track is a subjective marketing initiative. That doesn’t mean it’s not a good product, but I don’t believe you can get anything near the same result by using just any circuit block or blocks from a cassette 4-track, or even the whole machine. At least not with the easy control of tones and fuzz/distortion level. Again, just my opinion.
Harkens back to Ritchie Blackmore and his Akai tape recorder. Connecting the Stratocaster to the microphone input in the tape machine allowed him to overload the input -
I imagine one would do the same thing with a Cassette 4-Track.
 
Harkens back to Ritchie Blackmore and his Akai tape recorder. Connecting the Stratocaster to the microphone input in the tape machine allowed him to overload the input -
I imagine one would do the same thing with a Cassette 4-Track.
what model Akai?
 
With hardware. Standoffs…screws…nuts…etc.
So basically a whonky setup? I don’t see how one could wire it up and not look screwy - that is why I was asking - I thought you had some kind of slick arrangement worked out.
 
So, after taking a look at those links, first of all, they all utilize a standard 9VDC wall wart power supply or battery…just like any standard stompbox. And the circuits are NOTHING like your Porta 02 or MF-P01 machines, or the 244. Completely different circuits. I’m not sure how they correlate that the circuit designs create over-driven cassette portastudio preamp fuzz…I think its not a deliberate design, but something somebody did, and when they listened to the result somebody said, subjectively, it sounds like an overdriven cassette 4-track. But I’m not even sure how you could get any kind of substantial distortion on any of the above Tascam inputs unless you cranked the trim, and fed the input with a high level input like a +4dBu line level source, also boosted. My point is, with a source connected to the Tascam that is within the design parameters (like a passive electric guitar, for instance), you’re not going to achieve substantial distortion…not some kind of yummy fuzz. Maybe if you cranked every stage and had a mix of electronic clipping and some tape saturation you might get something interesting, but that involves all stages of the Tascam machine…input stages, record stages, playback and mix stages. So maybe the stompbox is trying to emulate that. I don’t know how that would sound. That’s not how I’ve ever used a Tascam 4-track cassette machine. The low headroom of the power supply of the stompbox and the fact the circuits are designed for boost is how the stompbox creates drive and distortion to the signal. You can’t get that just by taking the input preamp of either of your machines (and definitely not the 244 TAPE CUE circuit you mentioned). So your best option if you want to have something like that stompbox in your signal path is to buy one of the kits. That’s my opinion.
Thanks I appreciate your honesty! I'm not sure why my experience varies from yours but I find its really easy to push a guitar going into either of these into fuzz territory with the input level slider. I guess I'll try and sell these as non functional and see if antyone bites, or maybe I'll try my hand at opening them up to try and fix them. can't get more broken lol...can it? jk. As far as the pedals go I bet you're right about the sound being subjectively similar. I've only heard one demo of the 4-Track Fuzz diy kit and it sounded pretty awesome but I don't know how close it compares to an actual overloaded input on a Porta. Anyways, again, I appreciate your thoughtful input!
 
Thanks I appreciate your honesty! I'm not sure why my experience varies from yours but I find its really easy to push a guitar going into either of these into fuzz territory with the input level slider. I guess I'll try and sell these as non functional and see if antyone bites, or maybe I'll try my hand at opening them up to try and fix them. can't get more broken lol...can it? jk. As far as the pedals go I bet you're right about the sound being subjectively similar. I've only heard one demo of the 4-Track Fuzz diy kit and it sounded pretty awesome but I don't know how close it compares to an actual overloaded input on a Porta. Anyways, again, I appreciate your thoughtful input!
Well like I said I’ve never used a multitrack cassette machine that way, so I’m learning from you.
 
So basically a whonky setup? I don’t see how one could wire it up and not look screwy - that is why I was asking - I thought you had some kind of slick arrangement worked out.
I have no interest in executing any of this, so no I didn’t work up some slick setup. Anytime one is custom fabricating something it’s going to be…custom. You tell me…how would you mount a PCB power supply assembly? You can buy project boxes online that you modify for your project. So the PCB assemblies would go into that along with a power transformer and you’d wire it up…drill and mount jacks and switches etc.
 
I have no interest in executing any of this, so no I didn’t work up some slick setup. Anytime one is custom fabricating something it’s going to be…custom. You tell me…how would you mount a PCB power supply assembly? You can buy project boxes online that you modify for your project. So the PCB assemblies would go into that along with a power transformer and you’d wire it up…drill and mount jacks and switches etc.
YUCK!!!:LOL:
 
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