fast kick drums

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Ford Van said:
I noticed that the whole mix is VERY lacking in low end.
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LOL...I just noticed while I was playing along on the bass to a CD for some songs I gotta learn that I had the low end turned down on the mixer channel for the playback. :o

Anyway, I re-listened, and while there is more "low end", it is "higher" low end in the mix, and the mix is screaming for REALLY low LOW end. The stuff that shakes your fucking gut! :)

That is what your kicks are lacking is REALLY low stuff to make them sound HUGE.

This is a place where a multi band compressor can really help. Place it on the kick drum, compress the snot out of the really low stuff (like below 100Hz) and turn that band up until you get a bit of rumble!
 
Hey Ford, did you check out my sample? I'm curious as to what you think...
 
Chris. said:
Hey Ford, did you check out my sample? I'm curious as to what you think...
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I think I like it a little better now! ;)


It isn't the way I would have mixed it really. The drums sound too unprocessed compared to the guitars, and I feel the guitars are too upfront in the mix, and are masking some of the articulation of the drums.

I would scoop out a bit more mids on the drums, and give the guitars a tad more low mids and take just a hair of the high mids off the guitars. See how that works!
 
If you downloaded that before this post, download it again. I sort of used a VERY bad mp3 encoder on that last one!!! LOL
 
HangDawg said:
Listen to anyone of the tunes on this page. I think the kick came out pretty nice. Took some work though. If your interested, I'll tell you how I did it.

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Yeah that kick sounds cool.
A little too spongey for my own taste if you know what I mean, but it sounds quite like alot of the commercial release albums kicks so thats pretty good.
Reminds me of Reuben (the kick).
I prefer a smoother sounding kick like in Deftones or A Perfect Circle IMO.
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That kick's not bad but it's impossible to judge unless it's in a mix.


Just out of curiousity how did Cookie Monster become such an inspiration for metal vocalists?
 
TexRoadkill said:
Just out of curiousity how did Cookie Monster become such an inspiration for metal vocalists?
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Because you don't have to actually sing anything.
 
TexRoadkill said:
That kick's not bad but it's impossible to judge unless it's in a mix.


Just out of curiousity how did Cookie Monster become such an inspiration for metal vocalists?
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Well....you see....there is so much weak sauce lovey-dovey fairy music out there that at some point in the late 80's some very talented and pissed off people decided to give the music world some balance.

You equate a good metal vocal with a character from a childrens tv show because you are not understanding the point. Nothing...and I mean NOTHING...says "fuck you" better than a gutteral howl. I would really have a hard time taking the pop radio fairies seriously if they were to ever try and express real anger with their fairly voices....la la la ....everybody love spring time...la la la...fuck you....

While I agree that *some* metal vocalists are doing little more than grunting in tempo with the drums, *some* of them are acheiving real art and expression. It is an art form all it's own, if you care enough to look into it. But that's the rub. Not many people want to hear something that they have not heard before.

Ford Van - singing isn't that hard, man. It's really isn't. Getting that metal howl....THAT is hard to do.
 
Zed10R said:
Ford Van - singing isn't that hard, man. It's really isn't. Getting that metal howl....THAT is hard to do.
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Holy cow! :confused: :eek: :mad:

I see kids all the time doing that crap and I asked them how long they have been "singing" and they usually say "A year".

Ask somebody like Brad Delp how long it took him to achieve his full vocal range. ;)
 
You will not acheive a good screamo voice in a year ford van. This is something you can or can't do. My ex-singer have been singing like this for 7 years, and it still was nowhere near perfect.

Ever heard of bands like poison the well. In studio, the singer passed 8 hours a day for a full two weeks screaming for the tracks to be perfect. Try it by yourself, you will never be able for more than 5 minutes. It's about endurance, pushing harder than anyone ever did before, while maintaining constant, percussive voice. The real problem is that there is only one singer out of a hundred that can do it well, and people think the 99 others are how it sounds like.
 
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