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CanopuS
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Just wait till it turns out he does! 
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dannypat
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damn
damn, u guys tear me apart i just put it up so people might look into it.. but since u insist..
I love this mic because it sounds incredible with everything (vocals, acoustic guitar, drums, electric guitar.. sounds great..)
it picks up no noise at all..
and for such little money..
damn, u guys tear me apart i just put it up so people might look into it.. but since u insist..
I love this mic because it sounds incredible with everything (vocals, acoustic guitar, drums, electric guitar.. sounds great..)
it picks up no noise at all..
and for such little money..
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chessparov
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Welcome to the forums Mr. Rode!
Just kidding, we're not so bad once you get used to us.
Chris
Just kidding, we're not so bad once you get used to us.
Chris
noisedude
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Don't want to worry you Danny, but I think your mic's broken.dannypat said:
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Richard Monroe
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OK Dannypat, welcome to the board! I'm going to presume, until proven otherwise, that you are not a spammer, but just some kid who thinks his Rode NT-1a rocks. Here's a reality check for you. You are posting to a bunch of home recorders and audio engineers who typically own 20-40 mics (or more), many of which are over $1000 apiece. Most of them are very familiar with both the NT-1a and the NT-1, its predecessor. They understand that:
1. There are *no* mics that sound fantastic on everything. Mics fall into categories of use, which is why most of these people own 20 or 30 mics.
2. The NT-1a is *not* a great mic, even at its price point. It is a *fairly good* cheap Chinese/Australian hybrid mic, which is fairly priced, and does have some practical uses, both for studio and remote recording. Sorry, but we've heard this cheap mic, and a lot of other cheap mics. The one you are talking about is nothing special.
3. You are going to have to learn a whole lot more about microphones, and how they are used, before you are going to be able to enlighten the gearsluts, audio engineers, producers, and audio sharks that frequent this board. Here's a plan- stick around for a while, and maybe *they* will teach *you* about microphones.
4. All mics pick up noise, if there is any around to pick up. Some mics are more or less sensitive than others, which doesn't mean they are better or worse, just that they have different uses. All mikes also *make* noise, which is called "self" noise, and certain types of mics make more of it, which can also be a function of their design, not just quality. Although, if you take 2 mics of similar design, intended for similar applications, expensive mics are likely to make less noise. That is not always true, however.-Richie
1. There are *no* mics that sound fantastic on everything. Mics fall into categories of use, which is why most of these people own 20 or 30 mics.
2. The NT-1a is *not* a great mic, even at its price point. It is a *fairly good* cheap Chinese/Australian hybrid mic, which is fairly priced, and does have some practical uses, both for studio and remote recording. Sorry, but we've heard this cheap mic, and a lot of other cheap mics. The one you are talking about is nothing special.
3. You are going to have to learn a whole lot more about microphones, and how they are used, before you are going to be able to enlighten the gearsluts, audio engineers, producers, and audio sharks that frequent this board. Here's a plan- stick around for a while, and maybe *they* will teach *you* about microphones.
4. All mics pick up noise, if there is any around to pick up. Some mics are more or less sensitive than others, which doesn't mean they are better or worse, just that they have different uses. All mikes also *make* noise, which is called "self" noise, and certain types of mics make more of it, which can also be a function of their design, not just quality. Although, if you take 2 mics of similar design, intended for similar applications, expensive mics are likely to make less noise. That is not always true, however.-Richie
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DJ_Mixhousedude
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Everyone hears things differently to everyone else. If he likes his Rode, good for him. He wasn't asking. That's the real problem. The original post. Completely pointless... 
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Dio24
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Richard Monroe said:
What a waste of money! You spend $20-40000 on mics? Why don't you stop wasting your time with crap and buy Sanken, Royer or Brauner?
You obviously spend more time buying mics than using them. Why hack on a young enthusiast just because he wants to share his love for a particular product? If you're such a pro Mr40k Mic collection either share some of your "expertise" with people like him or stop wasting your time boasting about your mic collection (which obviously doubles as a penis replacement)on the internet and put it to some good use.
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Richard Monroe
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Actually, Dio, in the first place, I wasn't ragging on him. I was telling him where he is, so that maybe he can get something useful off of this board, instead of posting nonsense about the alledged greatness of a very ordinary $200 mic. Moreover, I've only got about $8000 in mics, because it's what I can afford, and what I need to record what I choose to. That puts me way into the middle of the pack here. If you do a quick check of the "how many mics do you own thread", You'll discover that there are *dozens* of people on this board who do have that kind of money, and a lot more, sunk into Brauners and vintage Neumanns, etc.. But that really isn't the point. The point is, the original poster doesn't have the knowledge base to inform anyone here about microphones, the Rode NT-1a included.
If what he said was true, I could spend my $8000 on 40 NT-1a's, which would be great for anything. I'm sorry you think I'm on an ego trip, but that's just one more thing you don't understand. I don't hand out reality checks to people because it makes me feel good. I do it because the recipient needs to be more in touch with reality. I'm assuming that you actually know something about it (mics), because you can at least rattle off the names of some high end mics this kid has most likely never even heard of. All I'm saying is that you misunderstand my motives completely, and what the kid said about Rode NT-1a is misinformed bullshit.-Richie
If what he said was true, I could spend my $8000 on 40 NT-1a's, which would be great for anything. I'm sorry you think I'm on an ego trip, but that's just one more thing you don't understand. I don't hand out reality checks to people because it makes me feel good. I do it because the recipient needs to be more in touch with reality. I'm assuming that you actually know something about it (mics), because you can at least rattle off the names of some high end mics this kid has most likely never even heard of. All I'm saying is that you misunderstand my motives completely, and what the kid said about Rode NT-1a is misinformed bullshit.-Richie
noisedude
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You could say that ... or you could say this:Richard Monroe said:
Shut up, moron. Come back when you know shit.
(And before you start talking, I'm skint-ass student, I have no money, I spend more time using mics and getting pissed off at idiots like you than I do buying mics. Learn who you're talking to before you jump in with your gormless comments and fatuous accuastions. Richie is someone who epitomises the art of the home recordist, who has saved and spent because he is passionate about his music. Your angry posts clearly double as a penis replacement.)
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Han
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Dio, why the hostility towards Richard?
Richie happens to be one of the most respected guys here and he is always very helpful to anybody.
Besides that, he certainly has a point about the NT1a, it's nothing special.
The Sanken mics you mention are special, do you have any?
Richie happens to be one of the most respected guys here and he is always very helpful to anybody.
Besides that, he certainly has a point about the NT1a, it's nothing special.
The Sanken mics you mention are special, do you have any?
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chessparov
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Although I probably am just an "audio shark-bait" here, Richie IS a nice guy.
Dio, I hope you and Richie put these comments behind you.
While I understand and respect his comments, my perspective is somewhat different. For all we know, it could be that on one or some of these sources the NT1-A is doing an excellent job of capturing Danny's performing.
It took me a long time to understand how a $80 SM57 could be comparable to an expensive Neumann for my voice via placement/EQing.
Also took away another excuse for not sounding better!
It's been said that all you need to make a first rate album sonically is simply a pair of Sennheiser 441's, along with the AE to pull it off, and a decent signal chain...
Chris
Dio, I hope you and Richie put these comments behind you.
While I understand and respect his comments, my perspective is somewhat different. For all we know, it could be that on one or some of these sources the NT1-A is doing an excellent job of capturing Danny's performing.
It took me a long time to understand how a $80 SM57 could be comparable to an expensive Neumann for my voice via placement/EQing.
Also took away another excuse for not sounding better!
It's been said that all you need to make a first rate album sonically is simply a pair of Sennheiser 441's, along with the AE to pull it off, and a decent signal chain...
Chris
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Richard Monroe
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Well, Chessparov, I agree with you in essence. I said the NT-1a is reasonably priced, and we all know that the most expensive mic is *not* always the *right* mic. I have no doubt that perfectly acceptable recordings, including commercial releases, can be done with an NT-1a, or an SM57. or Oktava MC012, or a bizzillion other cheap mics which we all use. My mic cabinet ranges in price from $10 flea market, to over $2000, and all of them get used occasionally, although I confess I've never found a use for Behringer ECM8000 that one of my other mics won't do better. (I'm still waiting for that tambourine- Chessrock says it rocks on that)
Ah well, we all have to do what we do. You can always be counted on to point out that a good dynamic is a possible alternative to a condenser, and I can always be counted on to hand out a reality check to somebody who makes a sweeping overstatement of his position. You know I'm a big fan of cheap gear that works, including cheap mics. My favorites that get no respect include AKG D690, D770, D320/330, and C2000B, as well as Sennheiser e835, all of which I use.
Not to worry. I'm not pissed off- Dio just took me for a rich mic snob trying to rain on the parade of a noob who likes his Rode. He's entitled to that opinion, and if you can't take an occasional flame, posting on this board or any other is going to get painful pretty quick. Yeah, I would like to be using Brauners and Royers and Schoeps, but I'm somehow struggling through with B.L.U.E. and Neumann.-Richie
Ah well, we all have to do what we do. You can always be counted on to point out that a good dynamic is a possible alternative to a condenser, and I can always be counted on to hand out a reality check to somebody who makes a sweeping overstatement of his position. You know I'm a big fan of cheap gear that works, including cheap mics. My favorites that get no respect include AKG D690, D770, D320/330, and C2000B, as well as Sennheiser e835, all of which I use.
Not to worry. I'm not pissed off- Dio just took me for a rich mic snob trying to rain on the parade of a noob who likes his Rode. He's entitled to that opinion, and if you can't take an occasional flame, posting on this board or any other is going to get painful pretty quick. Yeah, I would like to be using Brauners and Royers and Schoeps, but I'm somehow struggling through with B.L.U.E. and Neumann.-Richie
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chessparov
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If my home were properly treated acoustically, and were vocal tracking for anything halfway important, then I would definitely have some kick ass condensers available. Because the "rooms" are pretty typical sounding
this falls into your "dynamics are the audience, condensers are the critics".
(great quote BTW)
The closest to sonic nirvana (unEQ'd) experienced by yours truly are so far;
Telefunken USA 251 (fave)
Manley Reference Gold
Telefunken USA U47
Which are all condensers of course, and were run through high end pre's.
Haven't had the pleasure of trying a "real" '251 or U47 yet.
What makes it interesting is when you compare a Sennheiser-ahem Neumann U87 vs. some of the dynamics I have at home that seems to equal or surpass its tone for me. YMMV.
Chris
this falls into your "dynamics are the audience, condensers are the critics".
(great quote BTW)
The closest to sonic nirvana (unEQ'd) experienced by yours truly are so far;
Telefunken USA 251 (fave)
Manley Reference Gold
Telefunken USA U47
Which are all condensers of course, and were run through high end pre's.
Haven't had the pleasure of trying a "real" '251 or U47 yet.
What makes it interesting is when you compare a Sennheiser-ahem Neumann U87
vs. some of the dynamics I have at home that seems to equal or surpass its tone for me. YMMV.Chris
noisedude
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Richie, you're too gracious for your own good. I still need to learn to keep my high horse in its closet where it belongs.
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Han
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Well, my dear friends, you will be surprised how bad a high end $20k mic can sound when used in the wrong way on a wrong application.
I have heard recordings with a B&K 4040 on vocals that sound not good at all.
http://www.dpamicrophones.com/module.php?MID=101&itemid=4040&function=pdescription
I have heard recordings with a B&K 4040 on vocals that sound not good at all.
http://www.dpamicrophones.com/module.php?MID=101&itemid=4040&function=pdescription
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Dio24
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Richard, I obviously gone off half cocked @ 5am after 11 hours straight working and I'm sorry I beat you over the head with my frustrations. Hope there are no hard feelings. Seems I'm already a pariah. Oh, well. I won't say anymore, as I'll go on all night and end up with my feet and everyone else in it.
noisedude
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Dude, it's cool ... we all like a rant every so often but I can't think of any circumstances where I could justify Richie being the cause of it!!
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Richard Monroe
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God, I can just feel the love! And don't worry, Dio, we have some real pariahs here, and you have a long way to go to be compared to that illustrious group.-Richie
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Dio24
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Haha. That makes me feel better. Incidentally, I can understand why people here don't like the NT1 but I do think the NT1-A has had great improvement. But lets not get into that again.
I personally cream for Neumann and Royer anyway hehe. Thinking about getting one of those matched stereo TLM103 75th Anniversary sets if I can find one.
I personally cream for Neumann and Royer anyway hehe. Thinking about getting one of those matched stereo TLM103 75th Anniversary sets if I can find one.
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Han
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NO! get a set of M149's!
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