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mook
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New Order, All the way = The Cure, Just like heaven
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wakeupbomb
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mook said:I think from now on we can refer all such queries to wakeupbomb, who has generously offered to act as the official rock music historian on this board.
p.s. Interpol are marvellous
Whatever, you're the one who fucked shit up! It kind of makes you look stupid when you say shit wrong. I'm sorry I offended you guys, I was just correcting your mistake.
Oh, and The Smiths suck. Joy Division was way better!!!
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mook
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Wakeupbomb - believe me, I'm not unappreciative of your efforts to keep us on our toes. It gives me a warm feeling to know that next time I fuck my shit up you'll be on hand to correct me
I think it's possible to like both Joy Division and the Smiths (I do). Both lyrical geniuses, if not outstanding vocalists, and certainly very original; Curtis sang at the very bottom of his range, Morrissey occasionally beyond the top of his.
"Existence, well what does it matter?
I exist on the best terms I can
The past is now part of my future
The present is well out of hand"
JD, Heart and Soul
I think it's possible to like both Joy Division and the Smiths (I do). Both lyrical geniuses, if not outstanding vocalists, and certainly very original; Curtis sang at the very bottom of his range, Morrissey occasionally beyond the top of his.
"Existence, well what does it matter?
I exist on the best terms I can
The past is now part of my future
The present is well out of hand"
JD, Heart and Soul
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wakeupbomb
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mook said:Wakeupbomb - believe me, I'm not unappreciative of your efforts to keep us on our toes. It gives me a warm feeling to know that next time I fuck my shit up you'll be on hand to correct me
I think it's possible to like both Joy Division and the Smiths (I do). Both lyrical geniuses, if not outstanding vocalists, and certainly very original; Curtis sang at the very bottom of his range, Morrissey occasionally beyond the top of his.
"Existence, well what does it matter?
I exist on the best terms I can
The past is now part of my future
The present is well out of hand"
JD, Heart and Soul
I didn't say you couldn't like the Smiths and Joy Division. I was just stating my opinion that I don't think they Smiths are good...at all.
Cocky bastard.
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GamezBond
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all of rap music 
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bayoucount4
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In the stupid case of this bullshit ever, John Fogerty was sued for sounding like, well, John Fogerty. It turns out that an artist is allowed to sound like himself. Gee, you don't say.
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mook
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Jet, Are you gonna be my girl = Iggy Pop, Lust for life
Actually come to think of it, Jet = pretty much the entire AC/DC back catalogue. But I like them anyway.
Actually come to think of it, Jet = pretty much the entire AC/DC back catalogue. But I like them anyway.
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hmarq
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Sometimes just the influence is funny ...
... And sometimes it's the incestuous part of songwriters and performers and history ....
I listened to the new Hilary Duff album -- it's my daughters, but I found most of it listenable in a manufactured pop kind of way; but something was nagging at me, a couple of the songs sounded familiar ... then it hit me; this is Alice Cooper's Trash album!
Low and behold, look at the liner notes, one of the songs that hit me was "Do You Want Me?" and it's written by none other than Desmond Child who wrote the whole Trash album ... the other two are 'Weird' and 'Dangerous to Know' ... now I can't say any are blatant rehashes, but if you have or have access to the Hilary Duff album, listen to those two tracks and imagine Alice singing them ...
I did check for flying pigs and ice in hell, because I never though Hilary Duff would remind me of Alice Cooper, but sometimes truth is weirder than fiction.
... And sometimes it's the incestuous part of songwriters and performers and history ....
I listened to the new Hilary Duff album -- it's my daughters, but I found most of it listenable in a manufactured pop kind of way; but something was nagging at me, a couple of the songs sounded familiar ... then it hit me; this is Alice Cooper's Trash album!
Low and behold, look at the liner notes, one of the songs that hit me was "Do You Want Me?" and it's written by none other than Desmond Child who wrote the whole Trash album ... the other two are 'Weird' and 'Dangerous to Know' ... now I can't say any are blatant rehashes, but if you have or have access to the Hilary Duff album, listen to those two tracks and imagine Alice singing them ...
I did check for flying pigs and ice in hell, because I never though Hilary Duff would remind me of Alice Cooper, but sometimes truth is weirder than fiction.
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DingoPepper11
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Crazy in Love
I haven't heard the song by Beyonce, but there is a song called Crazy in Love from the 70's or early 80's. I believe it was by the Commodores. Is this the same song? Might explain why it sounds familiar.
T-nm said:
I haven't heard the song by Beyonce, but there is a song called Crazy in Love from the 70's or early 80's. I believe it was by the Commodores. Is this the same song? Might explain why it sounds familiar.
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kylosius
I Like Rusty Spoons
John Fogerty's "Old Man is Down the Road" = CCR "Run Through The Jungle"
i hope you all see the sarcasm and irony in that comment
i hope you all see the sarcasm and irony in that comment
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F_cksia
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Pachabel´s Canon : Streets of London
Let it Be : No Woman No Cry
Let it Be : No Woman No Cry
dragonworks
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Crown of Creation-Jefferson Airplane
I was reading a story by Theodore Strurgeon and there imbedded throughout the story in different places, a sentence here a sentence there, were the words to Crown of Creation. I went and checked the alblum for a credit for him and there were none. Words and music were credited to the airplane.
I highly doubt that Theodore Sturgeon ripped them off.
I was reading a story by Theodore Strurgeon and there imbedded throughout the story in different places, a sentence here a sentence there, were the words to Crown of Creation. I went and checked the alblum for a credit for him and there were none. Words and music were credited to the airplane.
I highly doubt that Theodore Sturgeon ripped them off.
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Artist Unknown
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I was watching Seinfeld and in the theme song you can hear the synthesizer playing "My Perogative" by....who was it? Bobby Brown? You can only hear it during the longer version of the theme song that plays during the closing credits.
Also...."spoonman" by soundgarden and "Rollin" by kid rock.
Also...."spoonman" by soundgarden and "Rollin" by kid rock.
undrgrnd studio
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I was in a band that the singer/guitar wrote wrote an awesome song called buster. Buster was our drummers dog's name. The singer/guitar player didn't like my bass and back vocals so he he showed me what he wanted instead. We played this song at shows for probably 3 months. Then the day after a show in Rhode Island we got a call from a friend that was friends with some people at the party. It turns out that they were big fans of a semi local semi famous band (I can't remember the band name). Anyhow they were pissed that we played this song Buster and called it our own when it was actually a direct rip off of this semi famous local band.
Well I didn't believe it at first because I never heard it before. Then my drummer got a copy and played it for me. It was nearly IDENTICAL, it was even called Buster. The words were a little different and our version lacked an intricate bridge section, but it turns out that our singer/guitar player had listened to this song a bunch of times and then he says he forgot it, but he heard this melody in his head and wrote almost the exact same thing from memory. To this day I don't know if I believe him, but man that was a trip for me.
I don't know if he was stupid enough to think that we wouldn't find out and nobody else would notice, or if he is telling the truth and was too stupid to notice he rewrote a song he just heard almost exactly.
Well I didn't believe it at first because I never heard it before. Then my drummer got a copy and played it for me. It was nearly IDENTICAL, it was even called Buster. The words were a little different and our version lacked an intricate bridge section, but it turns out that our singer/guitar player had listened to this song a bunch of times and then he says he forgot it, but he heard this melody in his head and wrote almost the exact same thing from memory. To this day I don't know if I believe him, but man that was a trip for me.
I don't know if he was stupid enough to think that we wouldn't find out and nobody else would notice, or if he is telling the truth and was too stupid to notice he rewrote a song he just heard almost exactly.
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glynb
Balladeer
I'm sure it happens. I'm convinced that sections of songs i write are parts of other people's songs, half remembered, but not consciously ripping off someone else's work - that i wouldn't do.
I'm sure when George harrison wrote My Sweet Lord he wasn't consciously copying Spector's 'He's So Fine', but copy it he did, I'm sure Harrison must have heard the song before.
Similarly a track by The Flaming Lips was a copy of a cat Stevens song recently. These are not deliberate acts in my view, the artists concerned wouldn't be so foolish as to deliberately copy, it's a subconscious process where people think they've come up with something original when in fact they're remebering something they heard before.
I'm sure when George harrison wrote My Sweet Lord he wasn't consciously copying Spector's 'He's So Fine', but copy it he did, I'm sure Harrison must have heard the song before.
Similarly a track by The Flaming Lips was a copy of a cat Stevens song recently. These are not deliberate acts in my view, the artists concerned wouldn't be so foolish as to deliberately copy, it's a subconscious process where people think they've come up with something original when in fact they're remebering something they heard before.
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Rickson Gracie
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Jesus Of Suburbia by Green Day has like 3 or 4 songs that are copied. in that sing i hear:
On With the Show - Motley Crue
Ring of Fire - johnny cash
summer of 69 - bryan adams
i think i hear another 80s hairband song in there two nut i cant point it out.
the strange thing its the only green day song that i kinda like lol
On With the Show - Motley Crue
Ring of Fire - johnny cash
summer of 69 - bryan adams
i think i hear another 80s hairband song in there two nut i cant point it out.
the strange thing its the only green day song that i kinda like lol
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Matheon
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BrettB said:
bah.. just the chords
its different enough
just like runaround, american pie, and some oldies song that says "hey baby i wanna knoow if you'll be my girl" and probably a million others.
.. it is physically impossible to write a 100% original song. every chord progression you come up with has been used before. unless you're david bowie and you can go G, E, F, Gb, C, Am, D, Eb, A, B, Fm all in a row and make it sound good.
but now that i think about it the first song on his album Reality reminded me of an oldies song.
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Toker41
Better Than You
I forget the artist (already), but there was a song about 2 years ago called "All lit up" that was a blatant rip off of Kiss "Shock Me".
honedawg
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PAPA Broach
That riff from the first Papa Roach single (can't remember the name but it made them famous) Is a note for note rip off from Purgatory by Iron Maiden...but when I first heard Purgatory I thought it was very similar to one from Paganini.
That riff from the first Papa Roach single (can't remember the name but it made them famous) Is a note for note rip off from Purgatory by Iron Maiden...but when I first heard Purgatory I thought it was very similar to one from Paganini.
jeap
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the flaming lips realized they were copping the melody while recording "fight test" but were too lazy to change a couple of notes.
they coulda and shoulda but they dont seem overly upset that cat stevens gets 75 - 25 of what that tune does.
i saw guided by voices on tv and one song kept repeating the opening melody from revolution by the beatles. the dude cops lots of beatles stuff and even sings with a fake british accent. he is from dayton ohio. i thought they sucked.
theres no way to avoid similarities anymore. theres too much recorded and copyrighted stuff and now the copyrights have been extended from i think 50 to 70 years or more. take the explosion of recorded music in the 50's and 60's and extend that out 70 years.
then take the peak we have now which is increasing rapidly and extend that out 70 years.
50 or 60 years ago it was easy to make catchy melodies and not get sued.
70 years from now it will be all but impossible. probably a lot sooner than that.
they coulda and shoulda but they dont seem overly upset that cat stevens gets 75 - 25 of what that tune does.
i saw guided by voices on tv and one song kept repeating the opening melody from revolution by the beatles. the dude cops lots of beatles stuff and even sings with a fake british accent. he is from dayton ohio. i thought they sucked.
theres no way to avoid similarities anymore. theres too much recorded and copyrighted stuff and now the copyrights have been extended from i think 50 to 70 years or more. take the explosion of recorded music in the 50's and 60's and extend that out 70 years.
then take the peak we have now which is increasing rapidly and extend that out 70 years.
50 or 60 years ago it was easy to make catchy melodies and not get sued.
70 years from now it will be all but impossible. probably a lot sooner than that.