Exporting Audio

[Wireneck]

Anyone who read my "cubase support" thread will know why I have to do this but a brief explanation before my actual question. Im currently recording with another guitarist who uses Cubase. I am using Adobe Audition. We tracked everything at his place into Cubase and now I am going to mix the songs on my rig. It would be alot easier for both of us to run cubase but for whatever reason my computer is not compatible with Cubase. Ok now onto my question.....
We want to export the wav files from Cubase completely raw. They need to be complete from start to end so I can just dump them into Audition and they will be lined up and in sync. We tried using the "Export Audio" function but for some reason, the exported Wav was louder than the original in the session? Im not famillar with Cubase and was not able to figure out the problem in the amount of time we had.
What is the easiest way to go about doing this? We don't want to lose any quality during the export or it kind of defeats the purpose. I read the section on Exporting Audio in the Help file but obviously something is happening that we couldn't figure out.

thanks in advance, you guys have been a big help thus far

 

[Kryptik]

I don't know why that would be louder just because of an export unless Cubase is normalizing the audio. If you reimport the exported track back into Cubase is it louder there too?

Is there a problem just turning down the faders in Audition?

 

[Markaholic]

ill cut and paste from what i posted earlier in the RP forum:

yeah look at it this way...when you create a new track..its default is set at 0.0.
now..say you adjust the playback track's volume to +3.0.
Now.. if you export that track just how it stands...its gonna be at a higher volume because you had it set to +3.0 instead of putting it back to its default position 0.0 first (same goes with the master)

 

[Easto]

Maybe I don't completely understand the question or problem but why not just copy the .Wav file that contains the part you want and paste it to the new computer?

 

[Wireneck]

yeah look at it this way...when you create a new track..its default is set at 0.0.
now..say you adjust the playback track's volume to +3.0.
Now.. if you export that track just how it stands...its gonna be at a higher volume because you had it set to +3.0 instead of putting it back to its default position 0.0 first (same goes with the master)
__________________

I was pretty certain that would happen. We zero'd everything out at the channels so there would not be a boost. Where should the master fader be set for default when exporting?

 

[Wireneck]

Maybe I don't completely understand the question or problem but why not just copy the .Wav file that contains the part you want and paste it to the new computer?

Because each indiv wav file doesn't run for the entire length of the song. If I just got copys of all the wavs, I would have no way of getting them in sync other than lining it up track by track, which would take forever.

 

[Carter]

Because each indiv wav file doesn't run for the entire length of the song. If I just got copys of all the wavs, I would have no way of getting them in sync other than lining it up track by track, which would take forever.

Use the glue command in Cubase and glue all the seperate parts together to make one complete wav.

 

[apl]

We want to export the wav files from Cubase completely raw.

The .wav files for each track are in your project's directory. Those should be the ones you need. If you've done a bunch of editing, like punching in and out, turn off all FX and EQ for that track, set the slider to 0, turn off all master FX and EQ, hit the solo button for that track, and export. It'll make a file, default mixdown.wav, in your working directory. You can change the filename and directory in that dialogue box. You'll also get the option there to export it as a mono track.

Hope this helps!

Hey, do Bossa Nova Rumble, would ya?!

 

[Wireneck]

Use the glue command in Cubase and glue all the seperate parts together to make one complete wav.

Would this work if a lead track didn't start untill 2 mins into the song? I guess we could add a little block of silence at the start of each track and then do the glue. thanks for the info, we may try that.


Apl thanks, i believe that is how we were going about it. He must have something checked that we didn't catch.

 

[apl]

Would this work if a lead track didn't start untill 2 mins into the song? I guess we could add a little block of silence at the start of each track and then do the glue. thanks for the info, we may try that.


Apl thanks, i believe that is how we were going about it. He must have something checked that we didn't catch.

There might be a normalize option on the export dialog box.

I don't think the gluing thing works, because I was trying that, trying to pull the file into Wavelab, but my memory's foggy on that. My impression is that the glue tells Cubase how to handle the wav files, but doesn't change the wav files.

 

[Atterion]

Here you go:

Go to File>Key Commands

Key Commands window opens, now open the Audio folder, and select "Bounce" and assign a key to it (I use Backspace). Now back in your project window, select all the parts on a track and hit your shortcut key you assigned "Bounce" to, and Cubase will create a new file that spans from the beginning of the first file selected to the end of the last selected. If you want all your files to line up evenly, simply use the draw tool to draw a blank audio clip at the beginning of each track. Then select all the clips for each track. This method won't delete your old files either (And Cubase will prompt you each time you Bounce, whether or not you want to replace the clips in the project window, just choose No if you are simply doing it to export the clips to another program). When you are done you can always clean up the Pool and delete the files right from the Pool window.

This bounce feature is nice to if you have a big file that you chopped up. Bounce the big file down to smaller files you want to keep (By selecting each one individually, ona at a time and bouncing), and free up harddrive space. Hope this helps.

 

[Carter]

There might be a normalize option on the export dialog box.

I don't think the gluing thing works, because I was trying that, trying to pull the file into Wavelab, but my memory's foggy on that. My impression is that the glue tells Cubase how to handle the wav files, but doesn't change the wav files.

It does work! it will take the seperate files and make it into one and you can find the new file in the wav pool.

 

[noisewreck]

^^^ I'll have to test this... but as far as I know the glue command in SX doesn't make one audio file from a bunch of smaller files, it just creates a part that contains the actual audio files. In order to turn your newly glued part into a new wave, then you'll have to bounce that part.

As to the export, there is another way. Instead of soloing and having everything go through the master channel, you can actually select the individual track that you want to export in the Export Mixdown dialog buss... Look under the Outputs drop down menu, and you'll see the audio channels option, when you mouse over it, it will open up the submenu, showing all the audio files in your project. This will export the output of that particular track bypassing the master output.

Here's an image below. I had done this earlier to show someone how to export individual outputs from Reaktor, so I've selected the Reaktor output in that pic, but the concept is the same for audio tracks, and at least you'll see which menu I'm talking about:

Just make sure you set the locators to the start and end of the tune, and you should be fine.